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Charabancs lost to Opsimaths
A
victory at last for the Opsis - and the evening's
highest score to boot!
Mike
sees hope for the Opsis in next week's 'Wooden
Spoon' final
For
once the Opsis enjoyed a great evening quizzing AND
a victory. In the traditional Griffin quizzing
area we nestled free of the TV football blasting out
from most other areas of the pub. We were
uninterrupted for the most part until a random
boozer wandered in and greeted us as if he might
join us and settle in for a good drunken chinwag.
He didn't look like the type that would be familiar
with the 19th century Freemen of Manchester so after
a perfunctory "Hello" from our excellent QM, Andrew,
he wandered off.
The
respective line-ups were Howell, Brian, Paul and
myself matched against John, Gerry, Bernard and
Bill. No Damian who is currently cruising
mid-Atlantic. Round One saw the Opsis take a
reasonable lead and the scoreline just continued in
the same direction thereafter. At the close
Bernard did observe that the Charas would have done
better if they'd chosen to go first but it would
only have put a small dent in the substantial
23-point margin.

Specially for David
(R5/Q3)
Howell and Brian had outstanding games both dredging
up bits of long buried information from the deepest
recesses. In the 'Manchester Freemen' round
Brian's recall of the Knight of the Order of St
Gregory the Great and, then straight after, the
cockney with a square named after him, when the rest
of us were perplexed, was memorable. As for me
I think I played my part but as Howell noted later I
did get all three unanswerables that came our way.
So,
on to the 'Wooden Spoon' final next week when we
face the Pigs at the Club. A win for us would
lift us from the foot of the table just in time for
the league season's close.

Party-goer Beverley
(R7/Q1)
John
prepares to tell Damian about that lost paddle
Whilst Damian sails to exotic places on his cruise
ship the rest of the Charas seem to be adrift up the
proverbial creek of effluent sans paddle. The
quiz was extremely well officiated by Andrew Simcock
(for whose services we thank the Electric Pigs), but
the Charas were never at the races. None of us
had any real complaint about the questions, we just
didn’t know very many answers. Reviewing the
questions after the game we thought we might have
scored slightly better had we gone second rather
than first, but it would have made little difference
to the outcome. At least we did our handicap
the world of good in readiness for the Cup.

From Google to the Gogglebox
(R8/Q8)
Gerry
recalls the days of the legendary manager, Fr Megson
Young(ish) team captain Damian went on an early
cruising holiday leaving the Charabancs to sink or
swim. Reader, we sank...... Sank, sunk, stunk
whatever the word is. And all this against the
Opsimaths who themselves know a thing or two about
sinking without trace under the watchful eye of wily
old peer and former Warden of the Sink Estates, Lord
Bath. His old dogs were suddenly sitting up,
performing old tricks and gleefully jumping through
hoops with half-remembered aplomb.
Never go back. Never expect an old manager to
bring back the glory days. 'Faster, higher, longer'
was for many years the Olympic boast of the
Charabancs of Fire, the fabled quiz outfit from the
Reeks under Father Megson. Sadly, as last
night proved, it no longer applies to them.
Not around the quiz table and most certainly not
around the Griffin urinal. In short they were not
just under the weather tonight; they were
under-motivated, underdressed, undersexed and
generally underwhelming. Just add the words
UNDER HERE and you have a perfect epitaph for them
when they eventually decide to pop their clogs.
Sic transit Gloria Hunniford as our Latin speaking
parents used to say.
There is bound to be a conspiracy against us though.
Just subscribe to our podcast and we will soon come
up with one.

Bart's bummer
(R2/Q1)
Prodigals beat Bards
Our champion's last 2025/6 league match ends as most
before with a win
Michael
has news of a judicial boat trip with Alison
Steadman
And so the Prodigals' league season drew to a close
with a narrow victory last night over the Bards.
Fielding John (fresh from Chase business),
Robin, Jim, and Tony, our guests took an early lead,
but we had nipped ahead by Round 4 and things stayed
more or less the same until the end. Always
tough opponents, the Bards had also opted for some
mind games: I arrived at the club not only to
find Tony evicting some n'er-do-wells and would-be
darts players from the back room, but then to find
myself conscripted into the business of facilitating
a land-grab, with the away team claiming the
Prodigals' usual table. A war of choice had
been declared.
Still, it was a very enjoyable evening, with QM
Anne-Marie heroically battling fatigue and obnoxious
cyclists to be heard. By sheer coincidence, it
seems that Tony was in the army (more precisely, the
army's navy) with about half of the people who
featured in the questions. The highlight of
his national service seems to have been a boat trip
around the Isles of Scilly with Alison Steadman,
although I may not have remembered that quite
correctly.

Good Lord! How can he manage? It's so
small!
(R1/Q5)
'Sweetness'
Hammond tells of some youthful twanging
Anne Marie was 'Master of the Evening' with the sort
of authority I once tried to aspire to, although
addressing me as "Sweetness" in response to my
"Darling" reminded me that it is three quarters of a
century since I engaged in that sort of badinage.
It was a delight to see the absolute amazement on
Jim's face when I was able to assist him with Lionel
Bart's awful flop of the early 60's. Twanging
in the days of my youth involved something different
from bowstrings.
It was a close match played on a very convivial and
sportsmanlike evening. All the better for
having the strength of character to sling a couple
of would-be darts players out of the room - and
suggesting that the card players tidy up their mess
before leaving.
Recall of the week was a two-pointer to our worthy
champions who remembered that Lesley Whittle was the
Black Panther's victim. We were still trying
to recall where her father got his millions from in
an effort to dredge up some glimmer of remembrance
of the poor girl's name. The lead changed
several times during the match which was a well
fought and close encounter.
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ELO Wizzard
(R6/Q1)
History Men lost to CKC
CKC keep their comeback run going in their challenge
for WIST qualification
Kieran
goes all chipper about CKC's top four prospects
LLLLLWWDWWWWLDLWW
That's our sequence of results in all competitions
over this strange season. We didn't get our
first win until the end of November and we were
still propping up the table two weeks later.
Since then we've outscored every team bar the
Prodigals - and the Charas (who we play next week in
our final game) are the only teams we haven't beaten
at least once. It's mathematically possible for us
to finish as runners up, though that would require a
combination of results that even a mug punter would
pass on. We could also finish sixth; down amongst
the most also of also rans.

Onwards to Dent
(R1/Q2)
We have no idea what has caused this turn around in
results. It's neither the presence nor the absence
of our man busily drawing random borders across the
map of the Gulf. It's not one player
sustaining a Fede Valverde-like run of form.
Our luck has definitely improved but, pace Gary
Player, we could not be accused of practising.
We'd like to think it's a reversion to the norm but
we'll have to wait until well into next season
before we can say that is the case. We're
certainly a much happier bunch of mutts than we were
three months ago.
We didn't have a stand out player. Martin of
course was our leading points scorer with, for him,
a relatively modest five maximums. It was
another night of excellent conferring and teamwork
and the famed CKC huddle is now working as well as
it ever has done.
Setting an entire round on on the Orange thing's
'excursion' into the Middle East deserves the same
chorus of raspberries that the Charas received for
their 'Woody Allen' effort a couple of weeks back
but we still scored a decent number of points.
Having three native Mancunians in our kennels was a
big help when it came to identifying the Freemen of
the city even if some of them seem to have had
little or nothing to do with the place. The same
three Mancs are all season ticket holders at the
Etihad so we again scored heavily on the names of
what used to be the revolving door of the manager's
office.

Onomatopoeic boat building
(R2/Q5)
Unusually for Ivor he missed out on the current
hideaway of the ex-royal nobody. I guess Ivor's
feelings about Mountbatten-Windsor are similar to
those of William - now I'm sure the Historymen's
skipper would know all there is to know about him.
That kind of niche knowledge may well come in handy
next season because, for the first time that anyone
can remember, the Historymen have qualified for WIST.
They join the Prodigals and the Albert safe at the
top and the final place is a three way shoot out
between Ethel, the Bards and us. Will there be live
TV coverage switching between the matches at all
three venues?
Post-match Ivor and David joined us and we talked
about the cuisine of Japan, with particular
reference to the interesting sounding Bukake, and
the tedious topography of inland Spain, as well as
the innate laziness of Spanish beggars. Also
pornography in Amsterdam, filth in Paris, a
different type of filth in Pigalle, Orange Order
marches in Liverpool, the Battle of Aughrim, and the
Treaty of Utrecht. Only WithQuiz can do all of
this.
Ivor reminisced that in his first ever game in the
league, thirtyish years ago, he played for Ethel
against us and guess what - we won by one point!
Apparently the winning point was a steal by me for
naming Brian Faulkner as the Northern Ireland Prime
Minister who introduced internment rather than
Ivor's answer of James Chichester-Clark. What
a memory the Pied Piper has, and plus ça change and
then some.
Next week we return to the Griffin but without Bob
the modern day buccaneer. The Charas are at home in
the derby and we have a final shot at getting
something out of the season. Bring it on!

The Old Devil
(R2/Q6)
Despite
this week's loss Ivor still has hopes for second
place
In our last match against CKC at the Griffin we
snatched victory by a point with a last question
steal. That was the third of CKC’s five
consecutive losses. Since then they have won
every match apart from one draw. Their new canonical
four (with Thomas instead of Barry) is now the fully
functioning quiz killing machine of old. We
played with our canonical four (or five counting QM
Guy). Team selection was touch and go: Anne
and Guy had suffered the curse of grandparents
acquiring a nasty respiratory virus from their young
‘uns during their Ibiza R and R. First time I
have seen Anne on hot whisky toddies which were
sufficient to revive her, albeit less talkative
(argumentative), and reserve Steve remained on the
bench (almost literally at the next table).
Although we stayed in touch with three rounds to go
we had our signature last round flop (maybe some day
we will have a flip-flop). CKC’s victory was all the
more impressive as they had more of the unanswereds
(3-1) and net losers (0-2) of the slightly dodgy
periodic table questions.

Corrie's Tina
(R7/Sp1)
Of course we all had our hard luck questions.
I managed to fail with the pair of 'ex-Royal'
questions and conferred for Ken Russell as I could
not see the onomatopoeia. Young David, our
geographer par excellence, failed to identify the
maritime borders of Iran, a country he spent his
childhood in, in the 1970/80s. He did get the
steal with the land borders even though three of the
countries did not exist then. He also got the
question featuring his favourite singer from
adolescence, Belinda Carlisle. Presumably he was
attracted to her melodic voice. Meanwhile for
CKC Martin with 5 twos was the MVP (CKC are back to
form).
The War Round did evoke even more gloominess than
the 70s serial killers but it is as well to have
that round now; next week the Orange Oracle will be
declaring “Peace, probably the greatest peace there
has ever been in the history of the world”. We
managed to spot some themes - not that it always
helped. Anne’s only scathing comment of the
night (the hot toddies seem to suppress
vituperation) was that she had to stop listening
when it was stated that a hard rock duo came out of
Worthing.
One more week of the league season and a few teams
in for the minor placings including ourselves.
If we succeed it will be most welcome. If we
fail it is only a pub quiz.

Prince John's Morgan McSweeney
(R2/Q7)
Ethel Rodin beat Albert
Albert slip in their bid to secure second place
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This week's Quiz paper set by...
... The Electric Pigs
Average Aggregate score 79.3
Ahead
of the season's average aggregate score this was a
paper with plenty of points, some intriguing themes
and a round about Manchester that was as good as any
this season. Plaudits to Tom who I believe
contributed this Manchester round. Indeed in
our match at the Griffin the general consent was
that this whole round was 'Question of the Week'.
There
were only two slight negatives: there was a
suspicion that the balance of question difficulty
might have been a bit skewed against the team
starting second, and the wording of Round 1 Question
5 which asked for the address for the disgraced Earl
of Inverness. I think all of us at the Griffin
thought it meant how should you greet said royal
were you to bump into him, say, in Tesco's.
Fortunately setter Andrew was on hand to clarify
what was meant.
...
so what were John D's views ...
The
paper was fairly wide-ranging with some good themes
and we particularly liked the round about Manchester
freemen. More local themes and questions
seemed to be the general consensus, although it
would be fair to add our illustrious captain’s
oft-heard mantra, namely that the quiz should be
based on general knowledge.

"Good morning James, it's Bond here."
(R7/Q4)
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and Kieran's ...
We
always enjoy the Piggies papers and we have finally
stopped ourselves from nerdishly revising everything
about Coventry and its environs in advance of their
setting. Last night was a typical example of
the genre. It started a little sketchily and there
was a feeling that the first couple of rounds were a
bit rough around the edges and possibly put together
in haste as the deadline loomed. Then it, and the
scoring, took off; five twos in the first couple of
rounds and then twenty in the next six.

Fourth most hammered
(R6/Q2)
...
and Ivor's ...
The
quiz itself was quite high-scoring and interesting
and, for some, very gettable. Of course it is always
more enjoyable when you know the answer.
The
round of the night was the 'Freemen of the City'
theme. The questions were beautifully constructed
with just the right amount of information and then
an initial letter to help (or confound). Speke or
Stanley? Simon or Shapley?
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and Gerry's ...
Always nice to send hate mail to the question
setters and the QM when you lose by a landslide.
Just imagine our sense of injustice when we realised
that the Pigs had set an impeccable and inspired set
of questions and that Andrew from a sty suspiciously
located in the same diocese had been both
magisterial and impartial in performing his QM
duties.
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and Michael T's ...
Like
one of the spares, we thought the quiz was a bit of
a curate's egg. There were some very good
rounds (the T20 cricketers, Iran) but a couple of
dead pairs, in particular the ones about the hymn
and the chemical elements (the latter caused much
consternation among the Bards' professional
scientists; the Prodigals survived through blissful
ignorance).

The Coffee Boss
(R5/Q2)
...
and finally Tony's twopennyworth
...
We
enjoyed the Pig's paper and confessed ourselves
astonished at the ingenuity of our fellow quizzers
in finding new themes to set questions to.
Onomatopoeia (if I only knew how to spell it) seems
to be one of the better themes of the season.
Thank
you to the Pigs for a well thought out and
skillfully presented question paper. I look
forward to what Kieran makes of it.

Astronomic kiss couple
(R1/Q3)
Question of the Week
This week the excellent Round 4 with the announced
theme of answers all of whom were Freemen of the
City of Manchester got plenty of good feedback.
I've chosen Question 6 from that round ...
Awarded
Freeman status in 1958.
Born in 1899, he regarded himself as a Cockney.
He escaped death in 1943 after changing planes with
Lesley Howard the actor. He has a square and a
sculpture named after him
in Manchester.
His surname
starts with the letter 'B'.
Who is he?
For the answer to this and all the week's other
questions click
here.

Freemen all:
Welsh-American presumer, Wythenshawe champion,
Graphenite, Cuban librarian, City star, Cockney
musician, Fact guardian, Versailles signatory, Ypres
wounded, All-day person, People's budgeter & College
Lord Mayor
(R4)
... and
also
...
Carrying on from last week, but trying to avoid
spoilers in case you haven't yet watched it, John
from the Bards did really well on The Chase
last Friday (13/3) up against his (almost) namesake
Anne Hegerty (a.k.a. The Governess). Suffice
it to say that, much to everyone's surprise, John
knew that old quizzer factoid that Errol Flynn was
born in Hobart, Australia!

Smallest island with a
building
(R8/Q5)
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