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19th March 2025

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So far just 4 of you have opted to join the WithQuiz WhatsApp group.  Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree and there's little demand for this facility - or maybe no-one is looking at the website these days so hasn't noticed that the group has been set up.  At any rate the idea seemed quite popular to the Charas and the Opsimaths a couple of weeks ago.  I'll leave it open for another week or two but if there's scant demand I'll bin it.  See ...and also below for details of how to join.

Another glorious league season comes to a close with no change in the table as the Prodigals, Albert and KFD win whilst Ethel and the Opsis tie

Many congratulations to the Prods for an (almost) unblemished season - your team photo reigns supreme

History Men lost to Albert

Prodigals beat Electric Pigs

KFD beat Charabancs

Ethel Rodin tied with Opsimaths

Latest WithQuiz League Table

History Men lost to Albert

A solid victory cements a solid third place for Albert

Albert skipper Mike contemplates manslaughter

A gentlemanly (and womanly) end to the league season. The Bards quiz produced a close contest for most of the evening until Albert drew ahead towards the end.  The quiz was very much weighted in favour of literature, history and high culture but, in fairness, produced very few unanswerables.  In between the questions QM Tony regaled us with old college gossip including an incident of manslaughter during an inter-college boat race.  I was thinking that Albert could come up with something similar from the old days of quizzing.  Eveline is bound to be able to recall the odd case of attempted murder. 

Meanwhile look out for the semi final of Mastermind on Monday which features Albert Quiz Team member Ian.


MOBO during an Albert training session

(R3/Q2)


Ivor, it seems, has much in common with strong man MOBO

Sadly we were unable to achieve the win or the draw that would have placed us in a Champions' League spot.  I am reminded of the line used by Richard II after the suppression of the Peasants’ Revolt: "Serfs ye are and serfs ye shall remain”.  It was not for lack of trying and we were only three points behind going into the last round.  There was not to be a crucial head-to-head this evening between me and Eveline, thank goodness, as we have had a few of those in our 50+ meetings.  We were missing Anne but Ray had another good outing (I think it is his first losing game with us) and Vanessa and David were reliable as ever.


Ivor learns his craft

(R1/Sp)


The Albert were especially strong tonight with a superior steal rate (7-2) and Ashton had 6 twos.  Ashton was not their only Mastermind alumnus as Ian was also in the team tonight.  He will be answering questions on the Clash in the Mastermind semi-final on Monday night.  Perhaps we should be adopting rules for quiz qualification so that we dullards can also shine.  It’s a bit like the Oxford-Cambridge boat race controversy.  I jest, of course, as in our league the difference between being a hero or a zero is finely poised.  It all depends on the question.

 On the subject of famous Oxonians Tony was in the QM seat tonight.  As expected he was in Paxman mode and took no nonsense so the quiz fairly rattled along with few constipaters and very few unanswereds.  We were gently teased at our lack of knowledge of Catholic saints (especially the one named after his college), and, not for the first time, my Ulster pronunciations were queried ("you say Hayber, I say Hahber").  It was nevertheless a fun evening with everyone getting at least one two except Jullien, who, in the 'LL' theme round, hoped that the between-the-wars Polish music hall pianist after whom he derives his unusual forename would make an appearance.  He waited in vain.

Non-playing captain MOBO did not have to admonish his team tonight at all (he didn't  give them any praise either!).  Of course we strong captains never give praise; 'good' is the enemy of 'best'.


Rachel enjoys a bit of tea-time fun

(R1/Q2)


Prodigals beat Electric Pigs

A magnificent end to a magnificent season for the Prodigals

Jimmy just loves those Zairean World Cup shirts

A most convivial ending to the league season was enjoyed by both teams at the Albert Club.

The quiz itself was a good'un; I particularly enjoyed the 'Harris' round and was chuffed that perennial panto principal boy Anita 'slap me thigh' Harris got a shout out.  Though the Prodigals were the victors, the man of the match award definitely went to Dave from the Pigs who scored 7 two-pointers and just missed out on the much coveted full house.

Post match, prompted by one of the 'double L' questions, we discussed the 1974 World Cup finals where I stood firm on my opinion that Zaire's kit with the Leopard's head on the shirt has to be the greatest football top of all time.  I will fight and die on that hill.  Bradford City's promotion chances were also dissected and the dodgy denizens of Salford 7 and the Cussons Soap Factory got a mention. A great finish to a great season.  Roll on the Cups!


... whilst another Rachel shows off her Inside Out house

(R2/Q4)


... and Anne-Marie has an early night ...

Earliest finish ever v The Pigs!!

Shout out to Dave Pig with an evening's haul of 7 twos - and it would have been 8 if he hadn't blurted on the first round.  Thems the breaks!


Saucy factory

(R5/Q1)


First Number One to hit the Heights

(R2/Sp)


KFD beat Charabancs

Barry's final league match in the Griffin derby ended with a fitting victory

Kieran tells how he dealt with his seat being pinched

The Charas did that small team thing by occupying the home team bench in the Griffin's Living Room to try to unsettle us.  So we did the thing big teams do in that situation and stuffed them.  Well, it was a bit rum from them, pulling that one on what, in all probability, was our man on the wrong side of the room's last league appearance after thirty two seasons.

Twenty league titles, seven runners up spots and five also-rans.  Not at all bad for a quiz league career.  It had to end the way it did with the Lowestoft Ben Duckett scoring the winning points with his final two when he naile, oops no, when he correctly answered Val McDermid to the first question of the final round.  Along the way there were a couple of classic KFD full team confers for Wakefield Trinity and Jesus, both in the Oxbridge colleges round.  We pretty much had a Young Boys Burnage / Braggarts / Fifth Finger / Mad Dogs / Napier Girls / SPW / Smoke Fairies / (not INBTO) / Dunkin' Dönitz / KFD greatest hits evening and thoroughly enjoyed it. 

We managed to score just enough points for a convincing win but not so many as to increase our handicap for the cup.  The Charas didn't improve their position either so we'll start six points behind them when we meet again in the cup in three weeks; on the strength of tonight that shouldn't cause a problem.  Martin pointed out that, had we won and secured second place in the league last week, we could have scored zero points tonight to reduce our cup handicap to nil.  "Questions would be asked" said Thomas, "yes, but not answered" replied Barry. 

We're really going to miss him.

To give you all a head start for next season here's the stuff that Barry knows and that the rest of us are clueless about: the Roman Empire, geography, astronomy, military history, science fiction, natural history, science, computing.  What he knows little and cares less about: musicals (stage and screen), reality TV, religion

... and that's about it.   


Oscar Brits - first to last

(R2/Q3&4)


Damian hails super-sub Alan

Well, all good things come to an end, I guess.  We had a good run the last few weeks and it would have been nice to finish the league season with one last victory, but it wasn't to be.  We tried our best but KFD were too strong for us.

From the start we were playing catch-up, but never quite managed to do so.  We didn't play badly, our opponents just played better.  They won the battle of the twos (12-10) and scored heavily on the steals (6-1).  Our star player of the night was our guest player from Stockport, Alan, who often agrees to substitute for missing regulars (of whom there are several at the time of writing) so long as we are playing at the Griffin.  As many of our recent matches have been at home we have been able to make use of his quiz knowledge quite frequently.  Of the 10 twos we scored, five of them belonged to him.  


"One day they'll write a book about this"

(R8/Q8)


Ethel Rodin tied with Opsimaths

A couple of lowly teams enjoy a well-deserved tied match

Mike observes a baton handed over

Two old quizzers (Roddy and myself) who've left the crease (© Rusholme's Roy Harper) sat in the corner of the capacious White Swan first floor chunnering over days long gone whilst an octet of sprightly (?) youngsters contested a match between two of this season's less successful outfits.  Ethel have sunk badly since their triumphant league win last season - though they did memorably destroy the Prodigals 100% record a few weeks ago; and the Opsis - without Nick and, for many weeks of the season, Howell - won two of their first four matches (both at the Griffin surprisingly) and then plummeted without any further victories or even tied matches to show for their efforts.  Many new Opsimath faces and lots of learning about how to play the WithQuiz way, but no points.

So, a drawn game was on the cards and so it was.  A really friendly evening at the end of which both teams - and Greg in particular - showed sportsmanship in handling the dreadful misprinting on the final question.  Hilary took the penultimate question about Strictly and the Opsimaths scored one point to go one point in the lead.  Over to Greg with the possibilities of a win, a tie or a loss very much alive.  "Who wrote the Lavs of ancient Rome in 1842?".  Baffled by the scatological reference the question got passed over and Hilary to her credit spotted the misprint saying: "They must mean 'Lays of ancient Rome!" and duly gave the right answer.  Both teams agreed that a spare question was required to replace the duff one.  Greg insisted that this spare should go to the whole Ethel team for one point to be fair to the Opsis.  Ethel answered the spare correctly for one point, the match was tied and both teams felt they'd achieved a good and fair result.

The Opsis (Howell, Paul, Emma and Hilary) showed signs that the season of transition and learning was starting to pay off.  Hilary and Howell both scored some notable twos whilst Emma and Paul looked settled in their roles.  Now, next season ....

Meanwhile we go into the Cup competition with a 13 point advantage should we be drawn against the Prodigals or Albert.


Corrie legend's Daphne

(R1/Q6)


Greg clearly had a great evening

A really good match tonight, played in the right spirit with plenty of humour.


Quiz paper set by...

... Bards

Average Aggregate score 78.5


Well, another paper that edged up the average aggregate for the season.  Last season we ended the league season with an aggregate across the whole season of 75.9; this year it's hit 76.5; so we're on an upward trajectory.

A paper with plenty of interesting questions too, only let down by the quality of the printing that caused some real problems at the Ladybarn Club - especially for the last 'Lavatories of Ancient Rome' question (see above).  If we all club together perhaps we can buy a new printer for the Bards.


Dirty Scot

(R3/Q5)


... and these were Damian's views ...

Although tonight's paper from the Bards didn't play to our strengths as much as previous weeks' offerings, it was a fair and varied assortment of general knowledge on offer.  The combined score of 80 puts it well over the season's average so that justifies it as reasonable, if a tad on the hard side.

The themes were mostly gettable and we especially liked the double 'LL' and 'Run-on' rounds although we did have an issue with 'Sweden' as the answer to the first part of the run-on with Denmark as being the country that first issued paper money and had the  oldest flag.  A quick Google confirmed our initial thought that paper money was first issued in China (in the 7th century to be precise). 


Just keep running

(R6/Q3)


... and Kieran's thoughts ...

The Bards paper didn't have any wow moments but it was perfectly serviceable and fair.  An aggregate of 80 and only five unanswered made for a more than satisfactory end to what for us has to be seen as an unsatisfactory season.  Still there's always the Cup, the chance of one more trophy; come on quiz gods, do the right thing!


Paddy the TV destroyer

(R8/Q4)


... and Ivor had this to say ...

The quiz itself was quite a points-fest.  The questions did not seem to have been raided from the Daily Star coffee time quiz; they were certainly in the 'high culture' category (Judge Dread excepted).  If Jeremy had not been in Ecuador the Albert might even have scored more.  Indeed the only eminent musician missing was the afore-mentioned Jullien and even our modern writers are likely to be remembered in the distant future (if quizzing survives).

Enjoyable themes and luckily no Welsh words in the 'LL' round.  I note good taste precluded 'Rolf' in the 'Harris' round.  In the 'Mc' round someday the question might be “Name the comedian who oversaw the rapid decline of three classic TV programmes: Top Gear, A Question of Sport, and Inside the Factory.”


... and Greg sums up  ...

An excellent paper from the Bards (apart from the typographical errors).


Manager's Crossing

(R3/Q4)


Question of the Week

 This week I've chosen Round 3 Question 4 which had our team heading off in the direction of the North East before they realised Bobby Robson had close links to East Anglia and Ipswich in particular ...

Which river becomes tidal just below the Bobby Robson Bridge before reaching the sea at Felixstowe?

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


Woman of assault and smells

(R4/Q3)


... and also

Next week we start the Cup with the elimination Round 1 match between the Bards and Albert which will reduce the number of contestants to a helpful 8 teams.  Remember handicaps apply (they're shown against teams on the fixtures page as well as in the League table).  For Cup results please report to me the actual scores after handicaps have been applied.

If anyone wants to fix a friendly match next week do let the Charas know so that they can send extra question paper envelopes to the Fletcher Moss.


Bradford's Pointless woman

(R4/Q7)


If you wish to join the WithQuiz WhatsApp group then let me know ...

... the name by which you would like to be known (which I suggest has your team name as the last part of it), and your mobile phone number.

I can then admit you to the group.