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19th February 2025

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On an evening dripping with points the Prodigals secure their third Barry Whitehead League Shield

Many congratulations from the rest of us and now let's see if they can keep that 100% record going for 3 more matches to break all WithQuiz records

Charabancs beat Ethel Rodin

Electric Pigs lost to KFD

Prodigals beat History Men

Bards lost to Albert

Latest WithQuiz League Table

Charabancs beat Ethel Rodin

A great win for the Charas moving them well clear of the foot of the table

Damian has the smile of the Cheshire Cat

Last week we dredged up one of our lowest scores of the season against the new league champions.  This week we notched up one of our highest scores of the season against last year's league champions which happens also to be the second time this season we beat them.  The Charas rarely do things by half and it was particularly satisfying that we won by the same number of points by which the new league champions beat us by last week.


Double bubble from Remi

(R1/Q8)


In contrast to last week's woeful performance everything seemed to go well for us.  Plenty of twos on offer and a disciplined team performance in the confers.  For once we managed to get the seating order more or less right and - for once - won the toss.  This all added up to a very satisfying night which doesn't come round too often these days.  To cap it all we were able to welcome back our regular QM Jane after a long absence.  She duly picked up practically where she left off handling some very lengthy and wordy questions with her customary patience and efficiency.  


Rogue Hero

(R2/Q4)


Electric Pigs lost to KFD

A comfortable victory for KFD keeping them securely in second place

... but Kieran for once is not in his element

The evening didn't start well, particularly for Thomas whose hidden theme round on the subject of chemical elements has been dumped from my inbox, the author now staring at a blank piece of paper hoping for further inspiration while cursing Brian.  The Lead Belly and Silver Surfer questions were all but identical to those he wrote a week or so ago.  All the more odd since neither Thomas nor Brian were present last week when we played the Opsis at the club.  I can only assume that Mike has hacked the KFD secure communications network and is now correcting the grammar in this match report before I've even hit send.


Hudie in his element

(R1/Q5)


We had an unwelcome advantage in the Opsimaths performance round because we'd somehow contrived to lose the first game of the season to the league's equivalent of Spurs, United, insert basket case team of your choosing, not City.  We knew they had started right but we didn't remember a player in their huge squad by the name of Penny. Perhaps she made a one off appearance in the shellacking they got off the Albert in game 2 and was never seen again.  Surely though it can't have been entirely her fault?


Touchdown Titan

(R8/Q5)


A very rare occurrence in the scoring - Dave Pig and the three other KFDers all scored more twos than Martin; that really doesn't happen often.  I hope Ivor enjoyed the GAA question, but sorry, Pied Piper, just because Thomas is irritated and having to rewrite a whole round of questions at short notice it doesn't mean he's going to set eight brand spanking new teasers on your favourite sports.  Ah yes we're setting next week; it's a good job I haven't been too outspoken with my opinion of recent question papers.

Many congratulations to the Prodigals on regaining the league title, we couldn't give you any sort of a challenge right from the off (see above) and you've just blown the rest of us away with ease.


FLOFS

(R6/Q6)


Gaza victor

(R2/Q3)


Prodigals beat History Men

The Prods clinch the title - but only because the visitors fell at the last

Ivor tells how the Table Toppers were, oh so nearly, toppled

'Close but no cigar' - and as an added bonus we now all know the origin of that phrase.  Despite being four points ahead going into the last round our knowledge of Russian did not extend to 'parsnip' - which is unlikely to be found in my kitchen except at Christmas along with other inedibles such as Eat Me dates and glazed chestnuts.  Even worse the tenacity of the Prodigals in chasing us down meant that Anne had the curse of Seat 4 with the last question needing a two to win, or a confer for a draw.  And as regular Seat 4 players know all too well, what a lonely place that is, especially when your fellow team members know the answer, believe you know the answer too, and encourage you to go for it; only to find that the religious leader and philanthropist that was the Aga Khan has been mistaken for the Great Panjandrum (which did at least have a recognisable kitchen appliance hidden within it). Perhaps my past blurts of Fu Man Chu as a great Mancunian, or Howard Jacobson being born in 'turning the light on' Flixton rather than Prestwich, will be forgiven (but I suspect not).


"Who loves ya, baby?"

(R3/Q1)


Of course the damage is never done with the last question.  I had ignored the advice of that great quiz sage HHJ Hammond.  Tony has noted it is essential to get around the table in the back room of the Albert Club rather than sit on the cosy settee and padded chairs.  This allows more focussed team discussions and attention to detail whereas lounging in comfort with intoxicants leads to sloppier play than a Sloppy Joe’s.  He probably has a point (I can hear Tony muttering “Definitely”) as the Prodigals never gave up any question without intense discussion - often getting the answer with us awaiting a steal that just did not happen.I was condemned for not listening properly (no change there) as apparently there is only one Canadian cuisine item that everyone except me knew.  My colleagues do seem to be excellent foodies - and we won that Round 7-3 (but had it been 8-3 then ….).  I was surprised to learn that Indonesia has a dish that sounded like it originated in the Third Reich (Nazi Goering, I believe).

We did have an entertaining evening nonetheless, and the quiz was very accessible with only one unanswered all night (the French dish).  A real points fest (so long as you knew the answers, of course).  It does allow weaker teams to get closer to surprise victories, though that was not the case tonight.  We enjoyed the Elements round (some of them hidden very cunningly), and the self-deprecating assessment of the Opsimaths' efforts this year.  Prodigal Richard was the MVP (he started with 5 consecutive twos) but failed to recognise the past MVP of US football.  Stella was also stellar coping admirably with the names of now unremembered French dukedoms, and Welsh delicacies (though even young David uses the English name for these).


Go on then Donald - how much?

(R3/Q8)


Bards lost to Albert

Albert squeak home in the 3rd/4th place tussle

Ashton describes a narrow but tasteless victory for the visitors

A very hard-fought match at the Parrs Wood last night where a draw would probably have been a fairer result.  The lead changed hands a few times and, as elsewhere, there were plenty of points on offer.

Any setters wishing to hamstring the Albert team would be well-advised to set a Food and Drink round. To our cataract-ridden eyes the dishes all looked much of a mushy muchness.  Damage limitation was the order of the day in that round, whilst the Bards snaffled up our passovers like the gourmands they obviously are.  It probably tells you all you need to know about our eating habits that our best food answer of the night was the steal on 'pizza' in the crypto question a few rounds later.


Liverpool-Everton derby but with sticks

(R3/Q7)


Quiz paper set by...

... Opsimaths

Average Aggregate score 88.8


Rules of humility prevent me claiming that this week's paper was a corker, so I'll leave judgement to the regular website correspondents.

However I thought I'd share with you the Opsimaths' compilation process.  It's not just Howell telling Brian to produce another one off the production line - well not quite.  We have a Sunday afternoon run through at the Club testing various offerings (mostly from Brian it has to be said).  Great fun, and hopefully well worthwhile in terms of quality control.  This last Sunday Tehmeena, Brian, Hilary, Howell and  myself were the quality controllers.

During the session Tehmeena told us she was returning to Canada (Edmonton to be precise) in pursuit of a promotion within her company, Hilti, so her assignment in Manchester will come to an end.  It's been great having her in the team while she's been here.  In this week's paper she was peerless on the World Foods Round and generally on all things American.  Sadly, however, her knowledge of 1960s British TV sitcoms, or villages in, say, Lincolnshire less so.  Having said that she did answer the Telly Savalas question in Round 3 with "I know, it's that guy who looks like Kojak".  We'll miss her!


... and what was Kieran's verdict ...

A very welcome, right on point, paper from Brian and co. after some rather uneven efforts at question setting in recent weeks.  Plenty of twos, a real pointsfest, only one unanswered each (of course I got ours) and all hurried along by Andrew with unfussy authority. 


... and Damian's feedback ...

I'm guessing tonight's paper was another Brian special as it seemed to bear all his customary hallmarks.  Plenty of variety on offer and the sort of questions which obviously appeal to our strengths and seem to hark back to the good old days of WithQuiz setting (at least as far as we are concerned).

We would probably be sitting much higher up the league table if he were able to set every week.  The high scores from both teams bear this out - so how about it Brian?  We particularly enjoyed the 'Find all the nasty words used to describe the Opsimaths performances this season' round which could frankly apply to us too on rather too many occasions - but happily not tonight.  Accordingly I chose that as the best round of the night with practically any one of its questions suitable material for QotW.


... and these are Ashton's views ...

If the intention was to set a points-fest then it was mission very much accomplished by the Opsis.  We matched the 94 aggregate of our draw with the Pigs earlier this season and I can't recall playing in a game with a higher one.  For all that, it never felt like a ridiculously easy quiz, so kudos to the setters.


Cobblers to you Ma'am

(R5/Q1)


Question of the Week

This week Damian and the Charas enjoyed the Opsimaths' 'Sackcloth and Ashes' Round 5 from which I have selected Question 1 which harks back to happier times in October ...

Possibly Britain's oldest shoemaker, dating from 1792, was granted a royal warrant in 1955 to supply footwear for Princess Anne and Princes Charles, Andrew, and Edward, and a second royal warrant in 1989 to supply footwear for Princes William and Harry.  Name this brand of children’s shoes.

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


Just a little push here and it'll all be over in days

(R2/Sp2)


... and also

At the Club last week there was a bit of a debate about the vexed question of 'Bingo-style' rounds.  Some love them and some definitely don't.

Kieran's written to me with these thoughts.  What do you think?

"Since you mentioned jeopardy in relation to bingo rounds last night here's an idea.

A Bingo round is any round in which the players have to select which questions to answer rather than the questions just being asked 1 to 8 as drafted by the setters.  So for any Bingo round the setters should be obliged to set 12 questions (or 18 if the Bingo format is to cover two rounds as sometimes happens).

The setters must scrupulously divide the questions into equal numbers (4 or 6) of 'easy', 'medium' and 'hard' questions as judged by them.  The degree of difficulty is shown on the Bingo selection sheet handed out to the teams, or announced at the start of the round if there isn't a bingo sheet.

'Easy questions' score one point, so presumably they'd always be conferred since there's no downside. 'Medium questions' score two as now and 'Hard questions' score three.  Questions can still be conferred or passed over for one point.

As well as hopefully evening up imbalances (since there would be an equal number of each type of question) this would also introduce a refinement to the decision as to whether to go for a solo answer or to confer.  Teams that were behind and needed points might well go for the 'Hard questions' to try to make up ground, as well as making it more difficult for the opposition to score a bonus and extend their lead.  Teams reasonably comfortably in front might well play it safe with the easy option but knowing that they could be giving away an easy pass over.  Might need a little tweaking but worth a thought?"