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26th March 2025

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The Bards go through to Round 2 with Albert not quite able to overcome the handicap;

In the evening's Friendly the Opsimaths storm to their first victory of 2025

Val Draper Cup - Round 1

Bards beat Albert

 

Friendly

Opsimaths beat History Men

Val Draper Cup - Round 1

Bards beat Albert

A Close Encounter of the Bard kind

Tony expatiates ...

It is such a long time since I ventured to expatiate upon the merits and demerits of both the quiz (and its setters) and the performance of both teams, that I really don't know where to begin.  But I was nobbled by Mike as I was on my way home from the Parrs Wood and he made me promise a few well chosen phrases about tonight's match.

It was a close fought affair throughout with the handicap proving just too much for Albert to overcome.  An enjoyable evening with the Bards running out winners by a tight margin - leaving me the problem of finding a team for the next round with Jim and John investigating just how many ways there are to travel to Valencia from Manchester.  Who was it that wrote about Trains and Boats and Planes?


... and John describes how the Bards took the Perrier award ...

With a 4 point advantage thanks to the cup handicap system, the Bards went into this match in confident mood.  That confidence was soon shattered as the Albert team quickly made up the deficit with some excellent answers on musical instruments and obscure Manchester bands from the 70’s. The final round saw the scores level and the first 6 questions in the 'Nosh-talgia' round resulted in 2 points for each player. So, it was down to the final 2 questions; Eveline zigged instead of zagged on the carcinogenic water question, going for Evian, which allowed the Bards to steal the Perrier prize at the death!

Bard Mike QM’d in his usual efficient style (apart from an entertaining blurt on the Ashton United answer!).

The Cup dream remains alive - bring on the History Men!


TV getting you going in the 1970s

(R2/Q3&6)


Ashton implores us to go easy on the 'Jeremy praise thing'

The Albert’s woeful record in the competition which bears the name of our illustrious forebear continued last night with defeat at the death against the Bards.  Every other team in the league has made at least two Cup final appearances since we last progressed beyond the semi-finals, and you now have to go back a quarter of a century to find the last time we got our hands on the trophy - a time when Mike and Eveline had only just come through the YTS ranks and presumably still had to clean Val Draper's boots. 

A new venue of sorts for us in the league’s most capacious stadium last night – the far left room behind the main bar.  If memory serves, I think we have now played in five different locations in the wide open spaces of the Parrs Wood.  I was very taken by the photographs on the wall in our new spot, which Jullien explained would probably be a nod to the theatre/TV studio which used to stand opposite the pub.  As such, proceedings were overseen by a framed portrait of a bumptious-looking Bernard Manning.  You wouldn’t get that sort of thing in the Quiz League of London.


"Come here little fly!"

(R1/Q8)


In the end it came down to the final pair.  Alas, water is not the clear liquid of choice for Eveline; she generally eschews the stuff for her preferred Smirnoff.  A steal and a conferred, and the game was up.  Fortunately we have plenty of spare rounds from our recent turn to set, so we were not our usual despondent selves at the prospect of writing eight rounds at short notice.

On that note, can I please implore other teams not to praise Jeremy’s question-setting prowess as he is becoming quite unbearably smug about it.  If it weren’t bad enough that he has won Question of the Season twice in recent years, we now have Ivor (I think) extolling one of his recent rounds as "turning question-setting into an art form".  Given he has now taken over editing duties for the Albert’s papers, he will be all the more inclined to use his own rounds over what he views as the half-baked efforts of the rest of us.  If you end up with a paper full of the minutiae of photography, legal jargon, impossible acronyms and not a sport or pop music question in sight … well, you will have only yourselves to blame. 


Trump meets his match

(R3/Q4)


... while LOTAT counts the expressions of sympathy ...

Illness forced me to miss the match tonight so I sat back and waited for the messages of concern and affection for me which the team usually conceal so well, and thus it turned out.

Juillien offered straight concern - a true gentleman; Jeremy offered similar but with the addition of a sardonic sideswipe about missing my baleful influence on the team; from Ashton and Eveline nothing - a treacherous indifference to my condition which thereby reveals the circumstances under which I work so hard to inspire the team. 

Consequently I have decided I must become a more commanding presence.  If the acronym POTUS is suitable for the President of  the United States then I will become Leader of the Albert Team LOTAT, a title which says everything about me and the qualities I bring to the team.


1970s student nosh

(R8/Q8)


Friendly

Opsimaths beat History Men

The Opsis romp home for the first time this year

Mike enjoyed that winnin' feelin' when all pressure is removed

A thoroughly delightful evening in the (for once) noisy barn that is the Parrswood.  Groups of raucous drinkers made finding a quiet corner impossible.  Brian, however, as QM did his best and we all managed.  The only real noise-related problem came in Round 7 when most of the players thought they were looking for Bards and Birds and couldn't see the connection between Albert Herring and the avian race (herring gull perhaps?).

Playing the History Men is always fun and - even with Anne away in Ibiza - Vanessa, David, Ray (Alison's little brother) and Ivor entertained us royally, even to the point of losing by a margin, which made even the 7 point handicap advantage we had superfluous. 

The Opsimath team featured Charlotte, Tehmeena, Howell and myself, and with 15 twos (to the History Men's 11) we were always in front.  To be fair to our opponents they did shoulder the added burden of 10 unanswered questions to our 3, but for once this year the Opsimaths were back to their old form.  With this form (and the considerable handicap advantage of +8 points) - who knows? - we may end up bottom of the League and top of the Cup.  Oh, bugger!  I just jinxed it.


"God, that tastes awful!"

(R8/Q2)


Ivor waxes lyrical over Hungarian Bull's Blood

Howell, the Opsimath’s apparently affable Evertonian, invites the Historymen to a 'friendly' to be played at the Parrswood, where the other even bigger beasts (Bards and Albert) are slogging it out for real.  Is there such a thing as a friendly in quizzing contests?  We are put to the sword 50-36.  Even if we had been running on level weights without the handicap it would still have been 42-35.

They may have finished bottom of the league but like Ali in the Rumble in the Jungle they have come off the ropes to deliver a killer punch. I think that is enough (possibly mixed) metaphors for now.  Howell got 6 twos and Mike and Charlotte 4 each.  Although we had four steals to their two we also got 10 of the 13 unanswereds (going second).  David and I would have been co-Jonahs with three each were it not for Vanessa’s magnificent unluckiness in getting four. Only our Ray (also an affable Evertonian) escaped the gods' cruel allocation of unanswereds.  Did the Opsimaths have any bad luck?  Not unless you count the Canadian questions not falling to Tehmeena, and maybe her getting the questions on quirky UK foodstuffs and even quirkier UK comedians.


Laughed?  We nearly died!

(R6/Q1&8)


We did have an enjoyable evening nonetheless.  Like many in our league we struggle with the 'new' stuff; no one remembered the name of the 'Last of The Few' despite reading his obituary this week.   We 'hit the post' with a few answers -  especially with the BBC4 and BBC2 programmes featuring gentler pursuits than competitive quizzing.  Unfortunately we misheard the title of the round on 'Bards and Berts' thinking it was 'Bards and Birds'.  We could blame QM Brian but it is more likely our organs of Corti had been swamped by ale at that time of the evening.

Anyway we were so thoroughly trounced that the Opsimaths had won before the last round which meant we could enjoy our trip back to the 60s and 70s to wallow in 'Nosh-talgia'.  Looking back at the nutritional value it is perhaps a surprise that we are still around.  It is often said that popular music of the time is a potent generator of nostalgia and happy memories. but so is popular (and mostly disappeared) foodstuffs.  I look forward to further rounds on the topic, which might even include Topic.  There is plenty to choose from: Spangles, Aztec Bars, Smash, boil in the bag cod in butter sauce, and (the impoverished student’s favourite) Hungarian Bull's Blood red wine (in Edinburgh this was the only red wine in the corner shop).


Pride of WW2 Lions

(R5/Q3)


Quiz paper set by...

... The Charabancs

Average Aggregate score 80.5


A very satisfying paper from the Charas for that horrible week when one of our teams gets fingered at short notice for setting duties.

I think our favourite round was the 'Berts & Bards' concoction - not least because the theme only revealed itself to us once we'd clocked halfway through the round that it was 'Berts' and not 'Birds' we were looking for.  There were no noticeable mistakes in the questions or the typescript and everything flowed smoothly.

Thanks, Charas!


CP's Paraguayan spoof

(R7/Q3)


... and these were Tony's views ...

There were no howlers or typos in the paper so far as I was aware, but loads of well-crafted and mostly well-balanced questions to test the abilities of both teams.  I particularly enjoyed the 'Berts and Bards' round and, amongst the spares, a tribute to both Albert and Hammond.


Bird's powdered dessert

(R8/Q6)


... and this is what Ivor had to say ...

It is the old stuff which is always the most satisfying - and there was plenty in the quiz this week.  The questions (and answers) generated a lot of chat and anecdotes even between questions (we do like to try the QM’s patience).  Perhaps our quiz league will some day be recognized as an NHS-style 'memory room' to keep our brains ticking over.

The Manchester-born comedians evoked much appreciation of a gentler time long gone.  Ken Goodwin was guaranteed to have an audience laughing even without telling a joke (no one ever settled down).  Colin Crompton in contrast had the deadpan look that could carry off his chairman role at the Wheeltappers and Shunters Club to perfection.  My own favourite joke from Colin was:

“The first prize in the raffle tonight is a diving suit …sorry I will read that again, the first prize in the raffle tonight is a divan suite”.


... and John H adds ...

It was a well-crafted paper with the 'Bards and Berts' round particularly well received by the 2 teams.


Sugar Plum Fairy instrument

(R1/Q3)


... and Ashton has the last word ...

We liked the quiz, even if there wasn’t a lot in there for those of us who can still claim to be at the more youthful end of the WithQuiz demographic.  The Wheeltappers and Shunters Club?  The Goombay Dance Band?  The millennials will be beating down the doors to join in next season …


Question of the Week

This week the History Men and the Opsimaths loved the last round entitled 'Nosh-talgia' from which any of the questions could have won the QotW prize.  I've chosen Question 2 in memory of probably the foulest drink I have ever tasted  ...

What brand of coffee and chicory syrup was first produced in Glasgow in 1876?  The original label showed a Sikh servant waiting on a seated Scottish soldier, but, in more enlightened times, since 2006 the Sikh is depicted as a soldier sitting beside his Scottish comrade with a cup and saucer of his own.

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


King of the BAFTAs

(R3/Q6)


... and also

We now have 10 members for this WhatsApp group.  It might make sense to have at least one from each team.  Currently there are none from KFD or the Bards.

If you wish to join then let me know ...

... the name by which you would like to be known (which I suggest has your team name as the last part of it), and your mobile phone number.

I can then admit you to the group.