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The Prods keep on going with this season's record score of 50 points; CKC notch up their first league points of the season at the Albert Club; the Bards set a points-fest of a quiz

Electric Pigs lost to Albert

Ethel Rodin beat Charabancs

Opsimaths lost to CKC

History Men lost to Prodigals

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... but Barry was never in the running for the Albanian crown

(R2/Q7)


Electric Pigs lost to Albert

Solid win for Albert as they pick up after last week's blip

Mike regrets no longer having his keys tickled

Apart from the high score the most remarkable feature of the quiz was the rapid pace; no hanging about here talking things over.  The question which caused most hilarity concerned the appalling quality of Brentford nylon, although fans of other West London football teams would find nothing unusual about something cheap and nasty being associated with Brentford. It was almost enough to make me get over the passing of Jimmy Cliff; I can see Deidre now Lorraine has gone. 

For most of the evening I was left in peace while the rest of the team got on with the task of scoring points.  I felt like an old harmonium covered in cobwebs in the corner of the parlour because some ancient deceased great aunt is no longer around to play hymns on it.


Light heavyweight in Moore of a hole

(R2/Q4)


Ethel Rodin beat Charabancs

At last Ethel seem to be getting into their stride with a comfortable win

Damian cops the Montparnasse revenge question

The 'Curse of the Second Half' struck us down yet again.  Just two points behind at the halfway mark and then finishing ten behind at  the conclusion!  We led in just one round (the first), drew in two and conceded the other five to our opponents.  How about we scrap second halves and just have two firsts in future?

In any event, we continue our inexorable slide down the table after such a commanding start to the season.  Alas, it's rapidly becoming a fading memory! 

Tonight's proceedings was a real points-fest though.  With a combined score of 88 and, judging by the high scores everywhere else, this must be the highest scoring paper of the season so far.  Congrats to Ethel for notching up their highest score of the season to date, just short of half a century - but trust them to do it at our expense!  They led in twos scored by 15 to 11, steals by three to one and left the only two unanswered questions to us.  I guess we might try and claim Historyman Ivor's excuse of bad seating arrangements but the fact of the matter is, as the stats showed, Ethel were just by far the better team on the night.  

I had to smile at the round on French boulevards with Montparnasse cropping up again after Bard Tony's blurt from last week.  Unfortunately that one fell to me after I blurted Père Lachaise as the spot where Serge Gainsbourg and other worthies are buried.  I'm sure Opsi Mike was relieved that there was no mention of Montmartre or Pigalle this time!  Trying to recall the name of the girl who sadly died after taking ecstasy way back in 1995 was a bit of a pinch but our opponents' superior memory for drug related tragedies of yesteryear snapped that one up too, so I guess we can't complain too much. Congrats again to them and back to the drawing board for us (as usual). 


Edgar provides Bamber with a starter for ten

(R3/Q8)


History Men lost to Prodigals

The Prods just edge a very high-scoring tussle

Ivor marvels at the setting skills of the Bards

This was one of our best performances ever.  We were always tantalisingly just behind after Round 2 and despite going into the last round only three points adrift we could make no further progress.  The Prodigals were prodigious tonight and they will be hard to stop in their pursuit of a consecutive League title (and perhaps a consecutive WIST cup).  As always they were delightful company too and, although we were runners-up we were happy to have played our parts in what might be the highest combined score of the season.  We came close to the magical 100 (has that ever been broken in our league games?).  

There were only two unanswereds (both falling to the Prodigals) and only three steals (1-2).  There were 35 twos scored (16-19).  Vanessa was tonight’s MVP with 7 twos and it would have been eight had she not been cautious in deciding between Moore and Hepworth.  It looks as if Auntie Anne’s mantle has passed to niece Vanessa just as Elijah’s passed to Elisha (Miss Turkington’s RE class has brought that metaphor to mind again).


Ulysses meets St Trinians

(R3/Q4)


With Guy in the QM seat the quiz fairly rattled along and there were only a few questions requiring prolonged thought, usually fruitless for us (an Arsenal footballer and yet another Tube station); but congratulations to Richard who worked his way through the world’s nations to identify No 88 in the Rugby standings.  We always enjoy run-on rounds so plenty of teasers in those two rounds tonight.  Sadly I failed on mine having confused Joy Division with The Teardrop Explodes.  I also failed my drug test in Round 7.  Thank goodness for confers with knowledgeable team mates.  The quiz ended so early there was plenty of time for chat including comparing pictures of cats; Anne has a Maine Coon, huge and not yet full grown; Michael’s cat is the fluffiest ever seen; my daughter’s cat, only two months old, has the sleek appearance and agility of a potential killing machine already. 

QotW: the run-on featuring a Liverpool player and the capital of Madagascar.  Malagasy names are long and hard to start with, but to run it with a hard to say Irish surname produces a word that would be hard to say even if completely sober (as few of us are going into Round 8).  At least it was well paired with the equally difficult Mexican actor and 80s/90s pop band.  Tony informs me that Jim usually takes on the responsibility of moderating and balancing questions in the final compilation of Bards’ quizzes.  If he has done this tonight he has produced a masterpiece of the setter’s art.


Michael learns of long-haired cats, Japanese yuk and Parisian hotels

A hugely convivial evening at the Parrswood, where I seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time on Wednesday evenings lately.  Luckily, and surprisingly, they have quite a nice Rioja and a good MPA. 

Anyway, in the vast and cavernous spaces of the back room, quiet as it should be, we snuck ahead early against Ivor's mob - probably our favourite opponents - and just about kept our noses in front all the way through. On the highest-scoring evening that I can remember, Vanessa was the MVP with a brilliant seven 'twos'. 

Afterwards, Ann and I discussed our love of long-haired cats, Young David showed us something of the frankly disgusting things he was offered at Japanese restaurants, and Jimmy recounted some of his insalubrious experiences of Parisian hotels (and cemeteries) during the 1998 World Cup. 


Opsimaths lost to CKC

At last CKC score an emphatic win - but still prop up the table

Kieran turns the wrong shade of red

Since the powers who run the Griffin got the thermostat in The Living Room under control, the Albert Club has been unchallenged as the least comfortable, least quiz friendly venue on the rota.  The poky, noisy back room with asymmetric seating and constant interruptions from bar staff going hither and yon to no apparent purpose knocks the Upstairs Room at the quondam Stadium into a cocked hat and then some.  It also has bar prices that would make the Woodstock blanch so it's not the ideal place in which to have to spring for our first winners round of the season.

Tonight we didn't care about any of that as at last, at last, it all clicked and we got the win and the points score that had eluded us for the previous five weeks.  We tend to like Bards quizzes and we definitely like points-fests.  Put those together with Dr Opsimaths as the opposition when there's an unusually high proportion of pop music questions on the paper and there's only ever going to be one result.

It's good to shake off the unsettling mirroring of Liverpool's season and now, hopefully, we can enjoy Arne getting slotted week after week as we build on tonight's success.  Barry (yes he was playing again) agreed that maybe the only thing that unites red and blue footballing Manchester is the endless joy to be had in Liverpool being absolutely useless again and again. 


Barry's AFS question

(R5/Q2)


Barry's protracted difficulty in getting the Norwich move over the line, while hugely frustrating for him, is great for us, especially this week since David is away in the Lakes. The question-setting gods were at their most mischievous since the sci-fi cockney red had to answer "Alan f***ing Sunderland" in order to record his only two of the evening.  I was extremely relieved when I discovered that "Ricky f***ing Villa" had been relegated to the spares so I didn't have to suffer the same fate as our (sort of) guest opener.

Those mischievous question setters were on top form in Round 4.  The battle of Magenta took place on June 4th 1859 and the battle of Solferino was fought just twenty days later.  Both were decisive victories for the French and their allies under Napoleon III and both battle sites are in Lombardy.  The difference that quiz players needed to know in order to score points?  Magenta is commemorated by a grand Boulevard spanning the ninth and tenth arrondissements; Solferino has a tatty rue in the Rive Gauche.  Very perplexing since Solferino was the final victory which ended the war.  Post-game Googling revealed that Solferino is also the name of a red/purplish colour very similar to Magenta and that the colours were named after the battles in question.  Sometimes quizzing does unearth wonderful little bits of information; the 'well I never' moment.


 

A Shropshire Lad

(R4/Q3)


Thomas only returned to Didsbury from Tallinn at 8pm and scored his first two at 8.40.  Finding the Estonians (and the Finns) to be frankly amateurish in the party stakes he's off on the Revenue's Christmas do from noon next Thursday.  Given what happened in Perth, Ben Duckett is likely to have departed the stage at the Gabba many hours before our WIST game against the rugby club kicks off so he should be in good time to open for us.  David will be back from the Lakes so Thomas will have no need to keep a clear head while touring the fleshpots of Manchester.  I wouldn't be surprised if he still turned up at the Griffin but I doubt he'll be much use answering questions.   

Post game the grumpy old men (Lord Bath, Martin, Barry and me) set to bemoaning the staggering idiocy of the BBC in making Trump look like the injured party.  We moved on to lamenting that today's leading politicians are such small, inconsequential figures when those of our youth seemed to be such giants - and we despaired at Starmer having all the electoral appeal of a five day old haddock.   

It's good to back.  


Kieran's RFV question

(R5/Sp)


Mike forgets his full backs

Time was when this fixture would have been a top-of-the-table clash possibly signalling the destination of the league trophy.  These days both teams are down on their uppers - though judging by this result the Opsis are considerably more down than their opponents with much further to go up.  The visiting Russian space dogs gave every sign of being a great team who had just suffered an extraordinary prolonged bout of bad luck.  Their tally of 48 was only two shy of the prodigious Prodigals, the highest scorers of the week.

Indeed Kieran, Barry, Martin and Thomas were back to their best and will surely win quite a few more as the season progresses.  As for the Opsis (this week Howell, Hilary, Tehmeena and myself) those halcyon table-topping days are well and truly over.  Also over is Tehmeena's stay in Manchester.  Her spell working here with the construction support company, Hilti, has come to an end; this was her last match before her return to family and friends in Edmonton, Alberta.  She has been the most delightful companion and we will sorely miss her company.  Her cheerfulness in the face of multiple questions about English county towns or arcane 1960s British pop music has been phenomenal.

Looking for some mitigation to what was a pretty dreadful Opsimath scoreline Howell did work out post-match that we suffered what Ivor calls 'wrong seat syndrome' on an epic scale with loads of potential twos going missing.  On top of that I suffered an evening of severe memory loss; for instance I spent an agonising minute or so desperately trying to remember Gael Clichy's name having watched him (and admired him) for quite a few years at the Etihad, only to have Everton-supporting Howell put me right (while mad Blue, Kieran, looked on in disbelief).  On the subject of football though, a shout out for poor Barry who had to endure the question on which forward with a Premier League team linked name scored against United at Wembley in the 1979 FA Cup Final ("Alan f*****g Sunderland - I was there!").  At least the equivalent City question (Ricky f*****g Villa) was relegated to being a spare!


Mike's brain fog

(R4/Q6)


Finally many thanks to Paul, one of our newer team members, who shouldered the QMing duties; his performance was both faultless and totally audible which was perfect given the racket that penetrated those thin curtain dividers in the back lounge of the Club. 


Fyodor and his favourite dessert

(R8/Q4)


Quiz paper set by...

... The Bards of Didsbury

Average Aggregate score 89.3

In terms of hardness this was a markedly different quiz to those we've had so far this season.  The aggregate was a whopping 15 points above par and 10 points higher than the previous highest aggregate.  It was a night for twos and the teams who, through choice or necessity, conferred surely lost out big time (most notably the Opsimaths). 


Liz McDonald at Manchester Pride

(R1/Q2)


... but what were Greg's views ...

Very accessible quiz tonight with a good variety of rounds; there were only 2 unanswered questions.  The Charas copped for two questions where we would have given the same wrong answer: the banned Beatles song supposedly referencing an illegal substance and the Parisian cemetery where Jim Morrison is not buried.


... and Mike O'B's ...

In general the quiz was a sound traditional effort and none the worse for that.


Some Colombian hippos

(R7/Q4)


... and Damian's ...

We can't blame the Bards' paper in any way.  Plenty of variety in the themes announced and hidden with the bonus of two sets of run-ons (at which I usually excel).


... and finally Michael offers his view ...

As the scores across the league reflect, the Bards had prepared quite a flat pitch, but I think there is all good reason to do this a few times a season; after all, a quiz should be a competition as to how much people know, rather than how much they don't, and so last night we all enjoyed ourselves by consistently giving the correct answers!


NI schoolgirls take the hump

(R8/Q5)


Question of the Week

This week the History Men are full of praise for the ingenious tongue-twisting run-on at Round 8 Question 1 ...

Part A: English footballer, born in 1972, who started his professional career at Liverpool in 1990 before transferring to Real Madrid in 1999,

&

Part B: The capital city of Madagascar?

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


Els Isards

(R6/Q6)


... and also ...

No league matches next Wednesday but next Thursday (December 4th) the top 4 teams from last season's WithQuiz league table play Stockport's equivalent top 4 in the WIST Champions Cup Quarter final ties.  The matches are ... 

 Prodigals v Smart Alex

(at the Parrswood NOT the Albert Club)

CKC v HMRUFC

(at the Griffin)

Swan & Railway v Albert

(at the Swan with Two Necks)

Alexandra v Bards

(at the Alexandra)

The paper has been set jointly by myself (Rounds 1 & 2 - Stockport style) and by Brian (Rounds 3, 4, 5 & 6 - WithQuiz style).  The Question paper envelopes for ALL 4 matches will be left at the Fletcher Moss to be collected in ALL cases by the WithQuiz teams whether they are playing at home or away.


Labour austerity

(R1/Q5)


Andrew Simcock (Councillor and long time Electric Pig) has just posted this message to the WithQuiz WhatsApp group:

"At the City Council meeting this morning we passed a resolution on prostate cancer. As part of that was a reminder that early diagnosis saves lives and the cancer can appear to be symptom free.  All men over the age of 50 are entitled to a free PSA check. I urge them to take up that offer. Please forward this to your networks."

If you're looking for men over 50 then our quiz family is a good place to start.  Over the past few years some good quizzing friends of ours have died from prostate cancer that went undiagnosed for too long.  I have prostate cancer which was caught early because I go for a regular PSA check.  Fortunately my cancer is in abeyance and I have no cause for worry at present - but I do get monitored every six months.

Save your life - get checked now!


Giving Fergie the heave-ho!

(R6/Q1)