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13th January 2016

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Wins for the Bards, the Opsimaths, Albert, the Shrimps and the Pigs - whilst undaunted by tonight's defeat the History Men meet their date with destiny as they are declared the second best WithQuizzers of all time (behind you know who) (see '...and also' below)

Results & Match Reports

The Men They Couldn't Hang were narrowly defeated by The Electric Pigs in the first match of the new year at the Parr's Wood.

Graham reports....

"A goalless draw at the Etihad?  Steve should have been at the Parr's Wood where a defeat for the Hangers would have been far more entertaining.  Even though another loss may have stuck in Il Capitano Dave's craw, it was a quiz enjoyed by all and admirably QMed by Gilly.  Always a pleasure and never a chore!  Many thanks to the Charas for the questions and to The Pigs for being....well just the Electric Pigs."

 

The Opsimaths ended up comfortable victors over the The History Men at the Albert Club.

In a wildly fluctuating first half the home team were down by two points at the break.  The second half, however, was one way traffic with the Opsis motoring to a 15 point winning margin.  Stato Ivor revealed after the final whistle that there had been just 4 unanswered questions falling 3 - 1 to the History Men; that Howell had been 'The Most Valued Player' of the evening; that he had been the 'Jonah' with two of the unanswered questions falling to himself; but that the key stat was the 14 twos earned by the home team compared to the 8 earned by his own squad.  The match was excellently QMed by visiting Chara, John Dennison, while I took the evening off at the Etihad arriving just before curtains to savour the friendly social chat that rounded off the evening.  And finally many thanks to Nick's friend, Mark, who guested as the Opsimaths' fourth team member.

 

The Bards of Didsbury beat Ethel Rodin by a clear margin of 17 points at the Cricket Club.

Tony reports....

"We had a very enjoyable evening quizzing against one of our traditional rivals.  The match was played in a good spirit of sportsmanship - for instance Question 4 in Round Two had QM Eric giving no points for our answer 'Antique Dealers'.  Ethel insisted that this was the correct answer and that we should have the point as the answer given ('all appeared in sitcoms') did not seem a close enough link between Windsor Davies et al.  Having reluctantly accepted Ethel's generosity and given the Bards the point Eric then somewhat sheepishly admitted that if he had read the next line of text he might have seen the words 'about antiques' in the answer given in the paper!"

 

Albert beat Dunkin' Dönitz at the Fletcher Moss to get their new year off to a rousing start.

Mike O'B sends this report....

"This quiz started badly for us as chemical elements are not our strong point and the DDs are much better at this sort of thing.  However after that 'blip' of a start matters improved and we scored consistently throughout the rest of the quiz, winning by a safe margin."

Kieran did send me a few of his more trenchant words but let's just sum up by saying the Dunkers did not enjoy the paper.

 

Compulsory Mantis Shrimp at full strength and full of the joys of wedded life (BTW many congratulations to Rachael and Adam from all your friends across WithQuiz) romped home to a rousing victory over The Prodigals at the Turnpike with what Anne-Marie describes as "an awesome performance".

Rachael's own summary is as follows....

"After a very convivial evening at the Turnpike in the company of the Prodigals - who are always wonderful company and who we always look forward to playing - we managed to finish the night ahead.  We got away to an early lead but, in true 'Shrimp' fashion, we found our lead eaten away to nothing by half time, and then we were tied for a couple of rounds.  Nevertheless the last two rounds saw us pull ahead and get the new year off to a victorious start."

It's great to be back after missing the last two matches before Christmas, especially since one of them was an all too rare victory, but I can promise not to miss any matches due to the 'honeymoon' excuse ever again!"

Quiz Paper Verdict

This week the questions were set by Charabancs of Fire.

A bit of a curate's egg this one.  Certainly a healthy enough average aggregate at 76.0 but clearly issues with the balance of the difficulty.  Match reports indicate that there were many more points to be had in Rounds 4 to 8 for the team that went second in the first half and first in the second half.  Plenty of praise for the level of interest generated by the paper but at least one burst of disgruntlement from the direction of the Fletcher Moss for some "terrible catholic bullshit drivel" (a visit to the confessional in Ladybarn for you Kieran, I think).  On the same subject a rousing vote of confidence for the 'Father Megson excommunication' question in Round 5.

At the Albert Club the difficulty balance was certainly in evidence with (for instance) Round 2 going 9 - 1 to the History Men and Round 3 8 - 1 to the Opsis.  The Opsis (who went second in the first half) won the second half 29 - 12!  Further evidence of the balance problem is echoed in Howell's recollection of Anne's comments at the end of various rounds:  "Hey, this is a great quiz!" (at the end of Round 2) - "This quiz isn't too bad!" (at the end of Round 4) - "This effing quiz is getting on my frigging nerves!" (at the end of Round 6) - "*****************" (at the end of Round 8).

Let's hear feedback from the other matches....

Mike O'B....

"We enjoyed the Megson round and see it as a tribute to a man who has done so much to give the Church the reputation it currently has.  It was strange to see a dingbats pair - this is almost archaeology in quiz terms.  Eveline claims to remember an entire quiz of dingbats set many years ago, and here they are again like corpses floating up from an ancient shipwreck."

Tony....

"All agreed that the second half of the season got off to a rousing start with lots of interesting questions.  But what a poorly balanced quiz it turned out to be!  By the end of Round 3 when the game stood at 16 all I was apologising to my team mates for opting to play second.  The balance of question difficulty was tending strongly against us, particularly in the Periodic Table round.  Nevertheless at half time there was only one point between the teams.  The second half, unfortunately for the Thinkers, was even more unbalanced but this time it suited us very much indeed as the final score shows.  There were only two unanswered questions all evening and, to be fair to the setters, the Bards did get several steals.  In a post mortem in the Gents Greg and I agreed that the margin between the two teams was greatly exaggerated by the final score."

Tony then added in a second email..,..

"Upon a moment or two's reflection I decided to be more scientific and actually look at the score sheet.  At half time it was 22 - 21 to us and there had been only two unanswered questions both coming the way of the Bards.  In the second half we managed 7 twos and made 4 steals.  There were 4 unanswered questions throughout the evening which broke 3 - 1 against Ethel.  As a result, and on consideration, I would wish to tone down my earlier criticism of the balance of difficulty of the question pairing."

...whilst James has a slightly different recollection of the stats from the Bards/Ethel match....

"Having just read Tony's summary I think he is mistaken....according to Roddy's scoresheet, there were 5 unanswered questions all of which came to Ethel.  And what's more the second half went exactly the way of the Opsimath's game, completely unbalanced by a factor of about 2:1 (28:14).

A shame because it was a good quiz really - and at half time had looked like it was heading for a close result.  The better team on the night won - but it should have been by less than a handful points rather than by an armful.  Oh, and at the risk of upsetting Rachael (see below), I thought Cabin Pressure was a load of shite!"

....and finally Rachael....

"The paper was enjoyed by all.  We found the questions to be generally well-balanced, interesting and fair.  We all enjoyed the one about the last Catholic priest to crown an English Monarch, and I was personally delighted to see my favourite comedy series of all time, Cabin Pressure, pop up in a quiz not written by me!"

The Question of the Week

This week the Pigs, the Opsimaths, TMTCH and the History Men all plumped for Round 5 Spare Question 2:

Father Megson recently tried to excommunicate a quiz player from the Griffin.  Unfortunately he misread the instruction manual.  He managed to find the two ex–Manchester City players he thought he needed for the ceremony but was unable to contact their ex–manager who had recently died in Liverpool.  Which two players and manager did he mistakenly think he needed?

For the answer to this and all the week's questions click here.

Chatterbox

Last weekend whilst preparing the question paper for next week the combined Opsimaths fell to speculating about the success of the various WithQuiz teams across the 16 years in which accurate league stats have been kept on this website.  With this in mind I have prepared an overall league table covering the seasons 1999/2000 to 2014/2015 inclusive.  I have taken all the league points gained by a team during the 16 seasons (i.e. 2 for a win, 1 for a tie and 0 for a defeat) and divided this by the number of matches played by that team during the same period.  Many methods for compiling this table suggested themselves but this seemed to me the fairest way of ranking teams across the years.  For the purpose of this exercise I have ignored the team name changes that have afflicted us from time to time (so, for instance, Dunkin' Dönitz includes all the previous incarnations of the team that plays at the Griffin). 

No surprises as to the top spot, but who would have thought that the History Men were the second greatest WithQuiz team of all time (a bit of an exaggeration but you get my drift).  I suspect Ivor and his colleagues will be delighted to see that, despite never having won the league title, they rank so highly.  Here's the table....

WithQuiz Composite League Table

1999/2000 season to 2014/2015 season inclusive

Rank

WithQuiz Teams -  1999 to 2015

Total League

Points

Total Matches

played

Average League

points per match

1

Dunkin Dönitz1

538

314

1.71

2

History Men

322

262

1.23

3

St Catherine's

166

136

1.22

4

Opsimaths

374

314

1.19

5

Charabancs of Fire2

368

314

1.17

6

Bards of Didsbury3

314

296

1.06

7

Ethel Rodin4

305

298

1.02

8

Electric Pigs

272

314

0.87

9

Albert

263

314

0.84

10

Stumped5

35

44

0.80

11

X-Pats6

129

194

0.66

12

Prodigals7

206

314

0.66

13

Gateway

11

18

0.61

14

Compulsory Mantis Shrimp8

55

102

0.54

15

The Men They Couldn't Hang

56

160

0.35

16

Calluna Pussycats

2

22

0.09

   Teams former names:

1 Griffin Braggarts, Fifth Finger, Mad Dogs, Napier Girls, SPW, I Blame Smoke Fairies, I've Never Been To One

2 Moss Dross, Brains of Oak, FCEK, 2FCEKs

3 Snoopy's Friends

4 Old Erin, Dr O'Neil

5 SWMCC

6 Christie's, TUFKAC

7 Albert Park, Getaways

8 Compulsory Meat Raffle

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This week Only Connect has come calling again.  I've just received this invitation to all WithQuizzers....

"My name is Rob and I’m writing from the popular BBC television quiz show Only Connect (BBC Two, 8.30pm, Monday nights).  We are now on the lookout for contestants for our upcoming 2016 series and I was hoping you might be able to share the attached casting flyer within your group?
Single applicants as well as teams of three will be considered so if anyone fancies themselves as a quiz buff then we would love to hear from them.
If you would like further information about the series please feel free to call or email me directly. Full details of the series as well as an online version of the round 3 connecting wall can be found here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lskhg or you can visit our facebook / twitter pages for updates: https://twitter.com/OnlyConnectQuiz https://www.facebook.com/OnlyConnectQuiz/
The closing date for applications is 4th February 2016.
With thanks in advance for your help,  Rob

Rob Watts | Researcher | Only Connect
Parasol Media Ltd | 46 Cardiff Road |  Llandaf | Cardiff CF5 2DT
robert.watts@parasolmedia.co.uk"

....and here's the flyer....

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...and finally another email and flyer from TVquizsphere - this time about a new show called The Code:

"APPLICATIONS ARE OPEN FOR A BRAND NEW BBC ONE QUIZ SHOW!

The Code is an exciting new format from Gogglebox Entertainment where you can compete either as a solo quizzer or in teams of two or three.  If you think you have got what it takes to crack the code to a safe full of prize money and win a rolling jackpot worth thousands of pounds, then apply now!

Details can be found on the BBC Take Part website: www.bbc.co.uk/showsandtours/takepart/the_code

If you’re up for kick starting 2016 with a new challenge then this is for you!

 

Best wishes,

The Code Casting Team"