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The Bards overcame a 14 point handicap disadvantage to beat The Men; with equal handicap starting scores The Dunkers beat Albert; The Shrimps turned their 2 point handicap advantage into a 7 point victory over The History Men

Results & Match Reports

Dunkin' Dönitz beat Albert in a close encounter at the Griffin.

As ever Kieran sends in his match report....

"An old fashioned Withquiz evening all done and dusted by 10.15 - and that after wasting ten minutes trying to work out the peculiarities of Donald Trump's thought processes (yes there's something quite wrong about that phrase) and then applying the answer to the somewhat woolly questions.  The Albert team were in the same mood as us, that is to get the thing over with by a decent hour and then relax and talk idle nonsense for the remainder of the evening, which is, after all, the prime pleasure of these occasions.  I've lost count of the number of VATs I've bought Eveline over the years but it is always a pleasure to do battle with one of the great stalwart teams of our league.   

Mike Bath did duty as QM and fulfilled the prime directive for anyone holding that office - he ensured that the quiz was finished in plenty of time for all participants to chat about nothing in particular afterwards.  With Mike taking the chair it allowed the doyen of Withquiz QMs, Bob, to make a rare appearance on the competitive side of the Griffin's hallowed front room.  The Dönitz were all the better for having him on our side rather than observing his normal impeccable neutrality.

Incidentally Withquizzers, make the most of Bob if you come across him in the next few weeks.  We know that his name will be all over the Panama Papers but with some 11 million documents to go at it may be some weeks yet before he's exposed on the front page of the Daily Mail (owned by an offshore tax dodger since you ask).  Hopefully by the time the tabloids are in a hue and cry after him, Bob, ever one step ahead of the agents of Her Majesty's Revenue, will have relocated to a jurisdiction even more secretive than that which the 4th Viscount Rothermere pretends to inhabit.  Enough.  I'll leave Jeremy Corbyn to fill in the details.

We're there again next week, starting 7 points down on tonight's setters, and Bob assures me he will be there to officiate.  Note to HMRC: Keep your dogs on the leash for a few days more, this stuff matters!

After next week things could get rather more complicated depending on what happens in Nyon on Friday, but nothing like as complicated as they could get for Senor 'Snake Hips' Guardiola in the next month or so.  'Football, bloody hell' as someone who knew a thing or two about it once said."

From the Albert corner Mike O'B sends this in....

"It was an enjoyable quiz.  We were slow out of the traps and at one point wondered whether our final score would equal the Men's handicap but by half time we were triumphantly into double figures."


The Men They Couldn't Hang lost to The Bards of Didsbury despite going into the match with a 15 point handicap advantage.

Tony reports....

"We had a great night at the Parrs Wood.  The new time rules worked very well given that we had a very sensible question master who gave people a little leeway to get used to the new rules.  As it was we started a tad late but had finished before 10.10pm.

The Hangmen's Stephen was on good form and by the end of Round Three I thought we were beginning to lose a bit of ground but then our luck turned and the questions began to fall to us and our particular strengths.  We thought the final result was perhaps not a fair reflection on the Hangmen who came up with some cracking answers, but all too often they were ones not twos."

From The Men Graham sends this....

"Despite a defeat after starting 14 points up I have to say it was a great night at the Parrs Wood - and two judges in attendance!!  Don't know if Jonathan is in line to take over Tony's role should he retire.  Great quiz and I have to say we completed the whole affair in 1hr 38mins.  Interesting to see if anybody else managed that time for tonight's paper."

 

The History Men lost to Compulsory Mantis Shrimp.

Ivor reports....

"The Shrimps have become the Leicester City de nos jours with yet another well deserved victory over the fading nearly men of our league.  They would have won even without their two point handicap start.  One of the peculiarities of this year’s handicap system is that despite finishing ninth in the league the three teams above us actually have a positive handicap advantage.  However the other strangeness of our league’s cup campaign is that we are guaranteed a place in the Plate semi-finals so silverware (deserved or not) remains possible.  So too does the prospect of having to set next week (barring strange results in the other matches).  Tonight’s match was relocated to the Turnpike where large screen televisions are no more likely to be found than other 1990s innovations such as outrageously expensive alcohol."

Quiz Paper Verdict

This week's paper was set by The Charabancs of Fire.

I was at The Griffin QMing so had first hand experience of the QM's burden in enforcing the new timekeeping rules.  Well - no problem.  After diligently stop-watching the two teams in the first two rounds it was evident that there was going to be no problem with delays.  A combination of the quality of the question paper and the acceptance by both teams of the need to keep things moving along meant that we were done and dusted by 10.20pm (which would have been 10.15pm but for the Donald Trump pair in Round 6).  Maybe I got things wrong but when Kieran answered the first of the Trump pair with "Cruz was not born in the US" I marked him wrong and passed it over because Canada hadn't been mentioned.  Mike said the same as Kieran but included the phrase "born in Canada".  After some debate we cancelled the question and reverted to a spare.  The same thing happened in reverse with the second Donald Trump question in that Mike mentioned breaking Federal Law but didn't mention emails.  I passed it across and got the same answer with emails added.  Again we went for a spare.  Eventually we got onto question 3 which thankfully was Trumpless.  Did I do the right thing as QM?  Were the Charas at fault for setting a dodgy pair?

Trump aside, both teams at the Griffin agreed that this was an excellent paper and totally in keeping with our new resolution to reserve at least the last 40 minutes or so of any quiz evening for conversation.

From the Turnpike Ivor offers his views....

"The Charabancs (as always) served up a splendid mix of the gettable, the ungettable and more than a few of the unforgettable questions that regularly delight us.  First prize for the unforgettable category must go to the one about the origin of the 'partridge in a pear tree'.  Fortunately we managed to work this one out from our half remembered medical and schoolboy Latin."

....and from the Parrs Wood Tony has this to say....

"The quiz itself was enjoyable and well set in the traditional spirit of the end of season knock outs.  The hand of Megson was clearly discernible and I also detected a slight Damienesque taste here and there.

It helped to know something about the rules of consanguinity, and even to know one of the students who blew up Nelson's Pillar - he is now a distinguished SC (Ed: Small capital? School certificate? Signal corps? South Carolina? Special Constable? Scandium?  Which of my dictionary's versions of 'SC' is he?), in Dublin.  I felt it was a pity there was a bingo round but that did not spoil the fun.  To me 'TSOM' had to be 'The Sound of Music' whilst 'LOM' should have been 'Loads of Money'.  Happily I always fell for the Tea and Sympathy line in my youth when I had a French pen-friend who was conceived after her father had left Gers and Condom behind (Ed: Prizes for anyone who can parse Tony's last sentence without resorting to mucky humour)."

Mike O'B's feedback....

"Like the DDs we were frustrated by the Trump questions and reached the stage where we wanted to shove Megson's crozier up his confessional box but there were many interesting questions to make up for this."

Kieran's take on this paper was....

"A reasonable Charas paper with some decent themes and a few of the 'you only put that really duff question in there to try to find an eighth to fit the theme didn't you?' variety.  I'm speaking up for all of us who play in seat 4 every week.  We have nothing to lose but our feelings of being hard done by.  

Eight unanswereds going marginally against our visitors but nothing any of us could have a serious gripe about.  A perfectly enjoyable evening. Even Barry, surrounded by some 'verging on the triumphant' blues, was happy enough given that West Ham's rather pathetic efforts to oppose his first love were being shown on every screen in our supposedly blue fortress."

The Question of the Week

This week Ivor nominates Round 1 Question 8:

A mishearing from a medieval carol of the Latin phrase meaning 'she gave birth in the open' is thought to be the origin of which  peculiar sounding gift given with great frequency every Christmas?

For the answer to this and all the week's questions click here.

Chatterbox

Out of interest - and prompted by comments from the 'Second Best WithQuiz Team of All Time' (the History Men) I have recalculated the WithQuiz Composite League Table I published in this spot at the start of 2016 taking account of the 2015/16 End of Season Table.  As predicted - sadly - The History Men drop down a couple of notches to become 'The Fourth Best WithQuiz Team of All Time' making way for the late, great St Catherine's team (hope you can this see from above Mike Heale).  Elsewhere The Opsimaths nip up a place to third and get within striking distance of second place if they have a good run next year.

WithQuiz Composite League Table

1999/2000 season to 2015/2016 season inclusive

Rank

WithQuiz Teams -  1999 to 2016

Total League

Points

Total Matches

played

Average League

points per match

1

Dunkin Dönitz1

563

334

1.69

2

St Catherine's

166

136

1.22

3

Opsimaths

404

334

1.21

4

History Men

336

282

1.19

5

Charabancs of Fire2

377

334

1.13

6

Bards of Didsbury3

347

316

1.10

7

Ethel Rodin4

333

318

1.05

8

Albert

292

334

0.87

9

Electric Pigs

291

334

0.87

10

Stumped5

35

44

0.80

11

X-Pats6

129

194

0.66

12

Prodigals7

220

334

0.66

13

Gateway

11

18

0.61

14

Compulsory Mantis Shrimp8

71

122

0.58

15

The Men They Couldn't Hang

59

180

0.33

16

Calluna Pussycats

2

22

0.09

Teams former names:

1 Griffin Braggarts, Fifth Finger, Mad Dogs, Napier Girls, SPW, I Blame Smoke Fairies, I've Never Been To One

2 Moss Dross, Brains of Oak, FCEK, 2FCEKs

3 Snoopy's Friends

4 Old Erin, Dr O'Neil

5 SWMCC

6 Christie's, TUFKAC

7 Albert Park, Getaways

8 Compulsory Meat Raffle