The Withington Pub Quiz League


9th October 2019


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Great news!  A new team is joining our league

(details below in column one)

The Charas and the Opsimaths go joint top after beating respectively the 2018 and 2019 league champions

Electric Pigs beat History Men

Dunkin' Dönitz lost to Charabancs

Opsimaths beat Prodigals

Bards lost to Ethel Rodin

I'm on jury service this week and next, so the website update will be completed a little later than usual.  I'll try and get the results up before I go to bed on Wednesday but it'll be late on Thursday before the question paper, match reports and pictures will be added.

Normal service will resume later in the month.

...and then there were eleven

I have received an application from a team of Manchester University students led by Joe Hanson (he played for Manchester University on University Challenge last year - and has played one or two games for various teams in WithQuiz over the past 2 seasons).  His colleagues James and Alex were also part of the same University Challenge team last year and the fourth team member Tana knows all there is to know about astronomy.

Joe and his team mates turned up at the Albert Club earlier this evening to observe and get to know the form.  Assuming there are no objections the new team will play the team currently designated as 'Sitting Out' each week (I'll adjust the Fixtures page accordingly sorting out which team is at home and which away for these extra fixtures).  Their first match will be away at the Parrswood against the Bards next Wednesday (October 16th).  When it comes to the 'Guest' paper at the end of the first and second halves of the season then the new team will be setting.

As for the two teams who have 'sat out' already this season (Ethel last week and Albert this week) I'll consult Roddy and Mike O'B to agree how we should handle this as regards points and the league table.

The new team's name is to be Turing Testers and their home venue will probably be the Greenfinch on the corner of Lapwing Lane and Palatine Road in West Didsbury (but Joe will confirm this in the next few days).  I will add appropriate contact details to the 'WQ Teams' page shortly.

A very warm welcome to Joe and his team.

A new nation announces its shape to the world


Dunkin' Dönitz lost to Charabancs

Another DD defeat as the Charas leap to the top

'Top of the pile' Damian reports...

Heavens to Betsy, quiz droughts seem to be drying up on a weekly basis for the Charas as the new season unfolds!  First the History Men whom we haven't beaten for yonks and now Dunkin' Dönitz whom we haven't beaten since Adam was a lad.  As Father M (newly returned from his vital missionary work in Poland) put it: "What the feck's going on?"  We're winning quizzes, Father, that's what!  Not that there's ever any pleasing the auld sod.

This was a quiz of more or less two halves with the Charas taking the first round decisively and then conceding the rest of the first half to our opponents. DD's lead was gradually narrowing though, and in the second half promptly changed hands in our favour.  From then on, things gradually got better for us. This, despite playing around with substitutions at half time as John's son Charles replaced Roisin to make his first appearance for the team since the far, distant days of the White Swan.  Every member of the team scored at least one '2' with Gerry, John and myself notching up 4 apiece. We haven't had a night like that since our reverend captain once spontaneously got up and bought a round!

Some Stirling East Anglian Council houses


and from Kieran a fable...

Mauricio Pochettino slumped face down on the tatty couch in his sparsely furnished 1975 'junior executive at MFI' office.  His employers had never considered him to need any comforts in the workplace, so torn black faux leather, chromium plate and a mildewing photograph of Alan Gilzean was all he returned to after each successive defeat.

They'd never considered him to need an upgrade of the playing staff either.  The donuts who turned up week after week had been perfectly adequate in keeping the team near the top of the table year after year and there was almost always the thrill of a run to the second (for them) round of the Cup before a tame exit and a fleeting thought of what might have been.  Hell they'd even reached THE European final a few short months ago. True they'd fallen behind early on, offered no serious threat throughout the entire game and folded lamely at the end but they had kept the scoreline respectable.  In the end he'd dared and his team had been completely done.

What, WHAT had gone wrong since the spring?  Well OK his defensive linchpin had been caught doing what he shouldn't with the midfield general's inamorata and his star striker had dived in, blackening eyes and demanding penalties all round but was that sufficient explanation? It had never been a tight locker room in that way. They played, more or less did their jobs, walked off with a point or two most weeks and went their separate ways.  Well apart from the linchpin who went the same way as the schemer in chief and then waited for his Porsche to disappear again and the coast to be clear.

Pochettino didn't believe that was enough to explain the awful slump that had befallen his team from the start of the new season. He was missing something, something he was sure would be obvious to others but he just couldn't see through the gloom and despair that had engulfed him.  He scratched his fingers through his straggly, greying beard and he had an idea. Brushing off the clumps of hair which had adhered to his pudgy fingers he fished his club issue Nokia 3210 from the side pocket of his club issue Millets manager's jacket.  He punched the button in the centre of the fascia and the screen glimmered into life. A few short clicks through the start routines and he found what he wanted - his contacts book. Scrolling through, the names appeared one by one as he thought who could best help him at this desperate time. 

Steve Bruce, no he realised things were bad but not that bad yet.

Pep, Christ no not this week, he couldn't listen to that.

Coleen and Rebekah, busy, always busy.

Nuno, he couldn't cope with the smug bastard.

Jurgen, see above in spades.

Then he hit upon what he'd been looking for and his fat thumb shook as he hit the call button.

"Ole, Ole it's Mauricio. I've got a bit of a problem..."

Opsimaths beat Prodigals

Champions lose by a whisker

Mike Bath lived through it...

What a thrilling match!  For the second week running the Opsis edged past potential league winning opposition.  This time Nick, Howell, Brian and myself saw off Dave, John, Jimmy and Michael in a tense 'last question' finish.  Howell ummed and ahhed and finally plumped for Fiji (2 points) on Question 7; Michael ummed and ahhed and finally opted for Canada on Question 8 (Tonga was the right answer which the Opsis got on a steal).  Game over and for the first time in 64 questions the Opsis were ahead.  Nick and Howell had performed magnificently throughout and it was only right and fitting that Howell slam-dunked the crucial 'Fiji' 2-pointer.

At the close Dave very generously awarded Howell the Orkney Dark Trophy to mark the result of yet another Albert Club derby match...

The match was ably QMed by Anne-Marie and watched over by a gang of Turing Testers rehearsing for their league debut next week against the Bards.

Finally make sure you're in front of the box at 8pm on Sunday October 20th....Howell is appearing on Who Wants to be a Millionaire?

and Dave reports from the other side of the chamber...

A defeat to our very noisy neighbours at the Albert Club in a thriller on an excellent Shrimps paper doesn't tell the whole story. Most of the noises were correct answers putting us under pressure until I buckled under the pressure of the Twizzler  in what was ultimately the pivotal moment of the match.

(Ed: Dave went for Turkey Drummer, rather than Turkey Twizzler, in Round 7)

Howell, Nick, Brian and Lord Bath can never be underestimated and they used all their skill to edge us out.

Apologies to my team-mates for my error, which wasn't 'bootiful'. It just shows how fine the margins are.

Jimmy, Michael and John were brilliant and I have learned my lesson to make sure I listen to the wise counsel around me.

Good work by Anne-Marie making herself heard at a unusually raucous Albert Club as she and Jitka contributed to an enjoyable, convivial night.

Also watching were a Manchester University troupe of brilliant minds, looking forward to their first foray into WithQuiz. As Prodigals and Opsimaths opined about some never forgotten legends of the past 40 years, it is always superb to see young, enthusiastic quizzers invigorating the league. Good luck to them.

Congratulations to the unbeaten Opsimaths who have now left the last two WithQuiz champions in their wake. They fully deserved the Orkney Dark.

No drummer roll for Rainford


Bards lost to Ethel Rodin

Ethel just win the battle of the 2019/20 virgins

James reports...

Both teams had the lead at various times but we entered Round 8 tied 36 all. We had the better of the educated guesses in  that round - and having visited Kakadu in Northern Territory allowed us a crucial steal. Always risky when a round has a diminishing number of possible answers - but it actually led to a suitably tense finale.

Few others here tonight appeared to have visited Manchester Art Gallery -  it is well worth  a visit, although last time I was there, brooding Sappho was not on display, in either sense. 

(Ed: And James adds lest anyone think that Ethel go away together on holiday)

I should say that it was me who had visited Kakadu, not the whole team.

“Hello, James, I'm on display now"


and Mike H adds...

I enjoyed QMing tonight - a very close enjoyable quiz, though a bit slow especially at the start.  James asked me at the end of Round 3 whether Round 4 was a quick one.  I told him that neither the questions nor the answers are long but speed depends on the length of the deliberations.

This was a good mixed bag of a quiz - close all the way leaving the teams tied at the end of Round 7, ready for the last round which Ethel won on the last question.

Just one other matter to mention (and maybe there ought to be a name for this in your Quizzing dictionary), in Round 7, Question 2 an incomplete answer was given before the final bit of the question had been read.

By and large, a reasonably well-balanced paper.  Happy Christmas, Shrimps!

Electric Pigs beat History Men

A solid win for the Pigs

Ivor cries into his beer...

Back to full strength this week following Anne’s return from Ibiza.  She was very good, but not even her 4 twos could save us from the re-invigorated Pigs.  Quiz aficionados will recall that in our Cup Final game last season the Pigs were 10 points ahead after 2 rounds before we mounted a spirited challenge to win by a single point. Tonight they were 10 points ahead after 3 rounds and although we cut the deficit to three points by the end of Round 6 the Pigs held their nerve (though we possibly gave them a scare).  However win or lose we all enjoy a good quiz and tonight we certainly had that with Andrew in the QM chair keeping order.

Only Englishman to get the boot


Quiz paper set by...

...Compulsory Mantis Shrimp

Aggregate score 85.5

A very healthy set of scores reflect a  satisfying evening full of smug quizzers.  But more than that the rounds were all pretty interesting and well constructed.  Finishing with the Rugby World Cup/UNESCO Heritage site theme was inspired and (certainly at the Albert Club) led to some great debates where angles were narrowed until - more often than not - a correct answer was squeezed out.  The skill of knowing when to confer and when to 'go for it' (long the forte of the Dunkers) is a skill the Opsis are at last mastering and Round 8 tonight tested our judgement in this regard to the full.  Finally a mark of the paper's quality: at the Club there were only 2 unanswered questions all evening.

Damian adds this...

"Though you'd probably guess we would say it, this was was a genuinely good quiz from the Shrimps with lots of varied and accessible themes for us to get our teeth into - and so we did and we never stopped biting. For once we gave a truly disciplined performance from start to finish.  Plenty of 'twos' from both sides, 14 to us and 13 for the Dunkers and I counted only 4 unanswered questions. Those are usually the recognised hallmarks of a very good quiz. Well done Shrimps!"

Manfred on the Jungfrau


and Ivor...

"Very good paper was the general conclusion.  The questions did seem to invite a number of blurts and, despite the Pigs knowing more than we did, we did nevertheless leak a fair number of points by plumping for the wrong answer.

Sometimes these were true blurts (my 'William Burroughs' instead of 'Jack Kerouac'), sometimes they were 'misspeaks' following a team conflab when the team captain (me again) blurted the wrong conferred answer (Alexander! McQueen), and sometimes they resulted from the team captain overruling a correct conferral (Christie Nolan instead of Christie Brown).  Indeed on checking Christie Nolan he doesn't even have a Wikipedia page though Christopher Nolan does.

The Art round did find us struggling (not that we are totally Philistines) and the question on differential calculus only brought back memories of the horrors of 'A' level maths; my wrong answer tonight was probably a re-run of my wrong answer then.  What's more we suffered our eternal 'sitting in the wrong seat' problem.  But there again that is one of of the delights (if it happens to opponents) of our Top of the Form format."

Question of the Week

This week the Opsis favoured Round 1 Question 6...

Ray Davies of ‘The Kinks’, Elvis Costello, Chaucer's Wife of Bath and the footballer Ronaldo all share what distinctive physical feature, known as a diastema?

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.

Father Megson

Our Father who art in Poland...

Always nice to meet a Fermanagh lady on my travels.  Arlene was over in Torun hoping to become the first DUP leader to get a seat in the Sejm, the lower house of the  largely Catholic  Polish parliament. She is standing for  the Law and Justice Party of Poland (PiS) under an assumed name. If elected Arlene hopes to merge her two minority parties into one giant PiSDUP party. Nice to know that even if Brexit fecks it for the rest of Fermanagh Arlene will still have a job...........

Poland's governing conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party has a significant lead ahead of this weekend's general election, according to opinion surveys released today.

...and also

Another invite to apply to take part in a new TV quiz show - this time from Nina Macdonald at Youngest Media ...

Nina writes...

"I’m getting in touch from a TV production company called Youngest Media. We are making a brand new quiz show called Very Hard Questions and are looking for teams of 3 with strong general knowledge skills who would be interested in taking part in one of the toughest quiz shows seen on TV. 

I thought this might be of interest to some of the members of your quiz league, so I thought I’d get in touch to send some information over. Anyone who’s interested can apply at this link – http://bit/ly/veryhardquestions

Kind regards, Nina Macdonald

Nina Macdonald| Senior Casting Resercher | youngest media ltd, 34 Park Street | London | W1K 2JD

T: 0203 696 9950 W: www.youngestmedia.com"

“Tread softly because you tread on my dreams”