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29th January 2020

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Everyone wins away from home as the Shrimps and Ethel move closer to the Prodigals at the top

Charabancs lost to Ethel Rodin

Bards lost to KFD

Opsimaths lost to Albert

History Men lost to Mantis Shrimp

Turing Testers lost to Electric Pigs

Charabancs lost to Ethel Rodin

Ethel maintain their strong challenge for the top of the table


The Hammer of all Apprentices

(R3&4/Q8)


Bards lost to KFD

KFD leapfrog the Bards

Kieran is more cheerful this week...

Patient zero has finally made his way home from Wuhan and settled into the opener's berth as if he'd never been away, with two maximums from his first two questions.  Apologies to the Bards, Tony was coughing and spluttering by the end but that may have been the result of an ill-advised blurt or some edgy ribbing from grandson Tom.  In any case collateral damage from an out of control killer virus is all part of the fun of Wednesday evenings in South Manchester quiz circles.  However, the Pigs, the Albert and the Prodigals might be advised to wear face masks for their upcoming visits to the Parrs Wood and maybe protective gloves as well.  Ivor can probably help out with that if he's not already been overwhelmed by panicked calls from School Lane and its surrounding area.

Typhoid Mary had been unable to play for eight weeks, since we defeated the Bards in the Griffin with the same line up but tonight he became part of the first league double over our historic nemesis in six seasons.  This is inevitably pointing to his being Aymeric Laporte which would leave Barry to fill the Leroy Sanť shaped hole in the team.  Not sure he'd be too taken with that. 


The male equivalent of Vera Lynn

(R3&4/Q18)


There was some clever misdirection from the Prodigals in the 'Chefs or is it Opening Batsmen' round.  Clever enough to cause miner's son and 'Road To Wigan Pier' character Tony to answer Tyldesley when we, still on the cricket theme, had Atherton nailed down.  Cue more bardic sotto voce cursing.

We misled Dhani in the last round, telling him his answer would begin with 'couldn't' rather than 'don't' but he generously said he wouldn't have known it anyway.   We've also tempted him with tales of the Albert, where we face the Charas next week.   Its belting juke box, its out of time wiring, plumbing and decor, its unique toilet facilities and its completely unfathomable drinks pricing. He's excited by the prospect and I almost hope Leroy still won't be match fit.  Every WithQuiz player has to take the field at our equivalent of Prenton Park (or Old Trafford) at least once in their career.

The Parrs Wood was more or less empty when we arrived and the large red cross David had thoughtfully painted on himself to indicate plague quickly dispersed the stragglers.  Post-match we fell to discussing, amongst other things, what on earth is the business case for that barn of a place when a Wednesday evening quiz can more than double the number of customers?  Also just how brilliant a pop band The Lightning Seeds were (Pure was on the juke box - it wasn't a totally random thought).  Also how come over the last fifteen years or so one Manchester football club has had something over £1bn invested in it by its owners while the other one has had more than £1bn leeched out of it, also by its owners.  And yet the one that seems to get up the nose of the authorities is..... Well you know the story.  Something that Leroy and I agree on at least.

Apparently there was also a football match tonight.  Good one to miss as it turned out.  One of those 'nobody's going to be happy with this' affairs.  Unlike the quiz where maybe we have turned a corner.   We'll see next week.


From Bradford PA to England

(R3&4/Q20)


History Men lost to Mantis Shrimp

A narrow victory for the Shrimps keeps them on the heels of the Prodigals

Ivor reports...

A loss - but not quite as bad as the 16 point defeat against the Shrimps just before Christmas.  Indeed we were ahead until the start of Round 6 and were only one point behind at the start of Round 8.  Sadly the last round was on 'popular' music, albeit from differing genres.  When Tim got asked a question about an Indie Band we knew the game was up.  Mike H could barely finish the question for his amusement at Timís blank stare.  Needless to say Tim did not select the '21st Century album' question in the 'Pick Your Own' grid round either.


and QM Mike adds this...

As ever a most convivial evening and a close result.  It was 31-30 going in to the last round but the History Men had no chance of catching up on what proved to be the best round of the evening for the Shrimps (they scored 4 twos).

Overall it was a good quiz paper, much more straightforward than last week's even though it was quite a tough paper.  The pub was pretty noisy so lots of repeats were needed.

In the bingo rounds, the declared mini-theme to each pair of questions was really a red herring (what's more some of the headings on the QM's paper were not the same as those on the grids handed out to the two teams).


Here Comes the Daughter

(R3&4/Q9)


finally from the Shrimps' side of the table James sees it thus...

It was a raucous Red Lion last night.  Alas, the punters were there to watch not the latest round of the quiz league, but Ole's second win at the Etihad this season.  We found space in the room without a TV and got to work, though it took much persuading to stop Rachael getting in the football spirit by lighting flares and setting off smoke bombs.

The History Men were great hosts as ever, and on great form throughout.  Some fantastic answers from them and a couple of blurts from us meant that they took an early lead, which they kept all the way to half time.  They then regained the lead after Round 5.  However, Round 6 proved decisive, as we gained a slight lead that we were able to cling on to over the final couple of rounds.


Turing Testers lost to Electric Pigs

After last week's success the Testers sadly tasted defeat at the hands of last week's setters


Comedy Gold

from Nuts in May to Gavin and Stacey

(R3&4/Q15)


Opsimaths lost to Albert

Albert move up to 4th in the chasing pack

After a short sabbatical Mike O'Brien is back with this incisive dispatch...

I know many of you have commented on my failure to post in the last 2 weeks. I can now reveal I spent the time in an exclusive Swiss Clinic having a butt lift.  Yes I yielded to the temptation!  It is a work of wonder; it reminds me of a cantilever stand, supported on only one side and yet miraculously seeming to hang in mid air.  I think I should be entered for some Danish Architectural Prize.  But now that I am out in quiz society again I would ask you not to stand behind me or alongside me attempting to surreptitiously glance at this architectural marvel.


Garbo, Leigh and Knightley

- the Three faces of Anna Karenina

(R1/Q4)


Quiz paper set by...

...The Prodigals

Average Aggregate score 71.2


I was elsewhere so wasn't able to judge the paper first hand.  I caught up with things at about 11pm at the Albert Club where they had just got to reading the spares - so it was a long evening.  By and large, however, folk seemed happy with what they'd consumed.

My only other thought from the subsequent task of putting the paper up onto the website was about the Run-on round.  Discipline as to what constitutes a reasonable overlap has varied quite a lot recently.  A whole distinct word overlap is fine but 'Andersen/Sense' as in Question 1 seems a bit unfair to me.

What did others think?


"...you might as well dance"

(R5/Q7)


These were Ivor's sentiments...

"The quiz paper was very much enjoyed by both sides.  Mike H, our QM, had no difficulty with the font or layout except for, what were presumably last minute, substitutions in some of the 'Pick Your Own' rounds.  This was not a paper rustled up at the last minute (my fellow team members take note).  The 'Namesake MPs' round and the 'Run-ons' round were obviously labours of love (and not 'Loveís Labour's Lost').  The 'Shakespeare' round and the 'Actorsí roles' rounds were spot on.  Unfortunately we did not spot the Orient Express stops.  This luxury mode of travel is now much shortened; in the old days of the NHS, pharmaceutical companies used to take GPs and hospital consultants on 'educational' trips (there would be a mini lecture and a poster or two) but alas such blatant advertising of their products is now banned by regulators."


...and James from Ethel's squad had this feedback...

"Another long one, (22:57pm finish!) but they generally interesting questions. The best non-answer of the night (and funniest moment) was when we were going through types of antelope and trying to think of whether there were any Thompsonís gazelles or elands in parliament.  Then I remembered about the dik-dik and we all agreed there were definitely plenty of dicks in parliament. Sadly it wasnít the correct answer."


...and Mike O'Brien's conclusions...

"This was a good quiz with not too many unanswered.  It was, though, a quiz which produced a lot of conferring and therefore the evening was longer than in recent weeks. The paper was slightly unbalanced in that both Bingo rounds were in the first half and all the hidden themes came in the second half.  What really excited us about the Bingo was that a couple of the topics on our handout sheets bore no relation to the questions the QM had on the paper in front of her. Surely this is the way to enliven Bingo rounds: pick the topic of football and get a question on Flemish painting.  We did like the clever tweak to the hidden theme in Round 8."


and Shrimp James' thoughts...

"As with last week, we found this quiz a bit of a toughie.  It took us a while to finish, doing so around 22:50.  However, that was certainly not just the quiz's fault; the loudness of the pub definitely played its part in the late finishing time.  The quiz was fairly balanced and covered a good range of subjects.  There were also some great ideas throughout, R6 in particular."


Just another stop on the journey East

(R6/Q2)


Question of the Week

This week the Bards rather liked Question 7 in Round 6 (that was the round with the hidden Hercule Poirot-related theme) - so their vote goes to...

First prepared in 1336 for the table of Philip VI, which foodstuff was popularised in the 1850s when vinegar was replaced in its recipe by the juice of unripe grapes?

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


The other Miss Farrow

(R8/Q3)