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Of the top 4 only Albert lose, but the table rankings stay as is;  the Opsis halt their 4 match slide

Albert lost to KFD

Charabancs lost to Ethel Rodin

History Men lost to Prodigals

Opsimaths beat Electric Pigs

Albert lost to KFD

KFD win a crucial battle at the top

Kieran feels the knockers at the door...

Almost done, the last knockings getting louder by the week.  The Albert have an outside chance of catching us in second place.  We, in turn, have an outside chance of overhauling the Prodigals at the top of the table but we'd need three results in the next three weeks to go our way and we're not playing in one of those games though we are setting the paper.  I'm no punter, mug or otherwise, but even I know that accumulators almost never succeed, that's why the odds are so good and you can usually cash out for a lesser sum before it all comes apart.  The top four for the season are pretty much sorted and hopefully WIST and the Lowly Grail will return in the autumn.


You're welcome, Comrade!

(R2/Q6)


Well, if it plays out as expected then it's been a hell of a season, just great to be back doing this face to face.  And it was a hell of a match tonight, maybe the best we've been involved in over the last six months.  Best of all was that Barry was back, fully recovered from his thankfully very temporary, relapse last week and I don't think our 'classic' line up can play any better than we did tonight.  Twos, conferreds and bonuses came evenly from all four of us and, though we led at the end of every round, the gap was never more than two points until halfway through Round 8.  Unanswereds were four apiece, twos also even at thirteen each. 

Martin would never have forgiven me if I'd failed to correctly anagram Eco and Coe.  The Name Of The Rose is his favourite book, and it was possibly the easiest two I've ever scored.  My unlovable and joyless grandmother would randomly declaim "The Assyrian came down like the wolf on the fold" at the oddest of moments even before the dementia set in, so she finally came in useful almost fifty years after she died.  Doesn't really make up for the rest of my experience of her though.

It's been a long time since I've visited the Didsbury and I doubt I'll be hurrying back soon.  Not my sort of place and pretty ropey beer (didn't tonight's setters get barred decades ago for similar comments?).  However they did manage to produce a slice of lemon for Eveline's end of evening V & T - eventually - which was one up on the Griffin in the reverse fixture.

So, we're setting next week and clearly it would be in our best interests for the Albert to beat the Prodigals but really what can we do?  We're not in the same position as the groundsman at Edgbaston before the first Ashes test, and in any case I'm pretty sure the four Prodigals could beat the entire England XI, at cricket as well as quizzes. 

Whatever happens it's been great to be able to have these Wednesday evenings again and for the four of us to prove to ourselves that we can still be competitive right at the (almost) top of the league.  And also great to be able to pen this nonsense every week.  A very diplomatic silence is likely next week!

We'll do our best with the paper and try to make it interesting and fun and let the chips fall where they do. 


Haysee Fantayzee's reflections from the QM chair...

I QMed last night - I think I was OK but it all passed in a haze (memo to self do not offer to QM after consuming 9 Pornstar Martinis in rapid section).

It was a competitive match all the way through as reflected in the tight score.  It did also allow Eveline to display her knowledge of both male strippers and crystal meth.  You can tell when she has been on the stuff; like a character in an early Carry On film she lapses into a cockney accent and shouts out things like "Cor! what a big one".


Beating Forth

(R8/Q7)


Charabancs lost to Ethel Rodin

Ethel just squeak home at the Griffin

Damian has a close encounter with a Miss...

Another close encounter, another near miss for us.  The way this played out seemed similar to last week with the Charas generally playing well, and slowly catching up as the quiz progressed, but not quite building up enough momentum to win.  Our opponents were consistently solid all the way through and stubbornly held onto a lead that they never relinquished.  Given the well-known quality of our opponents there can be no surprises there.

On the plus side we all scored several twos, but on the not-so-plus side at least three of us, including me, fell victim to the unfortunate blurt syndrome when someone else on the team knew the correct answer.  This way we forfeited 3 points on the steal by the opposition.  But hey, ho, that's the nature of quizzing and poses the eternal dilemma for a WithQuizzer: do you go for glory when you have convinced yourself you know the answer and so either score a two or risk having egg on your face with a 'nul pointes', or do you play it safe for one point by conferring with team-mates who have indicated they definitely know the correct answer?  For us it proved a bit of a mixed bag on this occasion. 


...to which James adds...

The Charas never recovered from losing the first round 9-2.  But for that it would have been a nailbiter.

'There’s no effin’ Rachmaninov'.  There was controversy over Rachmaninov vs Rachmaninoff.  Record sleeves of his work are literally split down the middle on this.  It’s a tough one.  I don’t think you ever see Chekhov written as Chekhoff but it’s the same last letter as Rachmaninov/ff.  But then you also never see Tchaikovsky as Chaikovsky which is the same beginning letter as Tchekhoff/Chekhoff/Chekhov. 

(ED: Less debate about how the effin' Russians spell their names and more over where they spill their bombs, please.)

Overall a decent quiz.  I think we can no longer be caught for fourth place, but I doubt there is much chance of us finishing any higher.


Compositions in 'E'

(R1/Q3) 


Martha & her Muffins - Echoes of the past

(R3/Q3)


History Men lost to Prodigals

The Prods power on, seemingly unstoppable

A sadder but wiser Ivor wakes the morrow morn ...

My continuing efforts at leadership have yet to yield our long hoped for reversal of fortune.  We may be closer than is thought, despite our 9 point loss this week.  Ann in Seat 4 is a good move.  Despite a wobbly start she responded well to a long stiff one from me (double vodka, soda and slice of lime) to achieve 6 twos and the coveted MVP award.  Sadly we continued with our blurts, timidity and lack of knowledge to leak 8 steals to the Prodigals 2.  However we take heart from the fact that we were nine points adrift after only two rounds but the final six rounds were all square. 

It was Tony’s round that did for us (7-1).  Not that the questions were unreasonable, but they were of such erudition that they would not have been out of place in a University Challenge final and so tested us severely.  Perhaps we should watch the news more often rather than YouTube videos on Meghan and Harry, or cute cats.

So, the knowledge machine, and former champions, the Prodigals gallop onwards like Crisp in the 1973 Grand National with only KFD in Red Rum-like pursuit.  The last few matches will make an interesting spectacle to the disinterested especially those of us not yet passed the Canal Turn.


"The sound of a harpsichord - two skeletons copulating on a tin roof in a thunderstorm."

(R8/Q1)


...to which Michael adds...

A typically convivial evening with the History Men at the Parrswood, as the Prodigals - thanks mainly to Richard - decided not to implode their title challenge on this particular occasion.

The quiz was very much a game of two halves.  We rollicked along at the start, but after the drinks break it became something of a slog, with a couple of later rounds drawn dishonourably, three points apiece. We were finished by 10.30, so had a little time to go down the rabbit hole of Ivor's late-night internet browsing habits as well as to contemplate the physical violence that Ann and Vanessa are planning for certain members of the WithQuiz fraternity.


...and Mike H appends...

As usual a very convivial evening with the Prodigals.  The paper was somewhat less accessible than last week (there were only 21 twos), but still some absorbing questions.  Once again Ann insisted on being in Chair 4 for the History Men and she had some success gaining 4 twos, though she admitted that asking her about rivers was similar to asking our departed friend Tim about pop music.  What's more, both ladies in the team said they would appreciate a slight change to the team name.

It is not difficult to see why the Prods are in such a strong position, combining as they do, great individual knowledge with excellent teamwork.  It is fascinating to watch them conferring.

As for QotW, how about the one about Adrian Mole?


Pop music - from 1950s to 1960s

(R5/Q5&6)


Opsimaths beat Electric Pigs

At last - just - a win for the Opsis

Our back lounge lizard reports...

There really isn't much to chose between the teams in this season's WithQuiz - with the possible exception of The Prodigals who seem just a small step ahead of the rest.  This week's aggregate scores ranged from 77 to 82 with no team scoring less than 37 and none more than 44 - which rather proves the point.  At the Club the Pigs ended up just 3 points adrift though they had been ahead throughout the first five rounds.  Nick was our MVP with 4 twos but the real difference was the number of steals the Opsis got in the second half (6 to the Pigs 1).

'Pigs versus Opsimaths' seems almost as steeped in history as 'Everton v Villa' - just one of those events that - pandemic aside - keeps on giving, year in year out, never mind the current formbook or the gradually changing team line-ups.  Actually, come to think of it, an Opsis v Pigs match with Brian, Nick, Howell, Guy, Dave and myself amongst the competitors would have been a familiar scene on a Wednesday evening in the last century.  And it was certainly the happy scene when, at the Albert Club on April 27th 2011, the Opsimaths finally broke the 12-year SPW stranglehold on the League trophy opening the way for others to reach the summit in subsequent years.  This time Gary was away at Cheltenham (gee-gees) and Andrew was otherwise engaged (Preston were playing at Luton but Dave and Guy refused to believe he'd forsaken the Pigs for a midweek trip to Kenilworth Road).

Howell QMed with great patience and wit, navigating some fairly epic tracts of text in the question paper and putting up with the usual "Could we have that again, please?" on multiple occasions.

The main lounge was fairly quiet with just a couple watching Liverpool beat Arsenal and the famous Chorlton cyclists subdued.  All in all, a perfect evening!


Stairway from the Black Sea to a heroic nation

(R2/Q2)


Quiz paper set by...

...The Bards of Didsbury

Average Aggregate score 78.8


I really enjoyed this one.  The scores were pleasantly high (average aggregate 2 points above the season's average) with a  wide variety of enjoyable setting formats.

When Round 2 was announced at the Albert Club by Howell as "Tony's Round" there was hint of dread in the collective groan (8 questions on famous legal cases of the 19th century?) but it was a cracking round very nicely themed around the centre of every news bulletin right now.  If WithQuiz can do nothing else at least we can remind each other and our readers of some of the more interesting features of Ukrainian life and culture.


Plane dope!

(R4/Q2)


I must say I was bothered that Round 1, where all that was required was a single letter answer, might be too slight but it worked really well.  The anagram questions in Round 7 gave for some fruitful conferring (Nick: "I'm sure it's Jena; Mike: "The only Mirror cartoon I can think of is Jane", "Bingo!").  The only mild criticism came in the 'Days' round where some of the thematic links were a bit thin.  The final round theme eluded both teams but was readily clocked at the end when Howell spilled the beans.

So a really good quiz - many thanks, Bards.


but what did Kieran think...

A really good Bards paper produced three tight high scoring games and for once we could find nothing to quibble about.


Shepherded to Hollywood

(R5/Q1)


and Damian...

The paper was a reasonably amusing assortment of inventive themes with the 'double letter' round proving the most accessible, and probably most popular.  There was, however, an unfortunate controversy about the double 'f' question given that it depended on whether you spell the composer's name 'Rachmaninov' or 'Rachmaninoff'.  I was convinced it was the former but subsequent googling indicated that double 'f' was how the composer himself spelt his name after he'd moved to the US so it seems my objections were misplaced.  My cause wasn't helped either by the fact that I got the answer wrong anyway thinking the composer in question was Rimsky-Korsakov (I often get those two mixed up for some irritating reason) and offered up a desperate double 'k' for the answer.  Another unfortunate blurt for me given that the rest of the team had already worked out the correct answer from the other clues.  Hey! Ho indeed! 


and Mike O'B...

Apart from the odd unbalanced pair (e.g. the anagram question and Happy Valley) it was mostly fair - although the feeling was that it was better to go first  which the Albert did not.


Greater Manchester - N, S, E & W

(R8/Q2)


and Ivor...

I thought the quiz paper was a pretty good one, both in structure, interest and balance.  As I have said before, our league yearns originality and interest and the double letter round had that in abundance (also good to see Rachmaninoff spelt the way he transliterated it from the Cyrillic).  The hidden themes were not too tricky except for the last round.  I must get out more from the Didsbury bubble.  Our most fruitless effort of the night was trying to make an anagram of a European battle from 'The Perishers' in case it came across as a steal.


...but some chicken, some neck!

(R2/Q1) 


Question of the Week

This week I really liked the first question in Round 2, for all sorts of reasons the best round of the week...

Thought to have been created in St Petersburg in 1818 by Marie-Antoine Careme, 'Cotelette de Volaille' is usually known as what?

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


...and also

Apologies if you were listening in to hear James on ALL FM this Tuesday at 10am.  There was a cock-up at the station and the show never got aired.  However it is rescheduled for 10am next Tuesday, March 22nd, so you can catch it then.  Alternatively you can listen in to the show on the Mixcloud archive service at...

15th March 2022 Programme - Interview James Williamson, A & E Hospital Consultant by Vintage FM - Don & Mike | Mixcloud


The highest - and the most boring - of the 3 peaks?

(R7/Q2)


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