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12th October 2022

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Bards go to top whilst KFD and Albert have the only 100% records; Albert dish up a pointsfest with an 80.5 average

Charabancs lost to KFD

Bards beat History Men

Electric Pigs lost to Prodigals

Opsimaths lost to Ethel Rodin

Charabancs lost to KFD

KFD get off to a solid start in their first match of the season

Kieran's weekly eco-friendly rant ...

Here we are again for the thirty somethingth time and what has changed over the summer?  Well after a temperate year or so The Griffin has taken sides in the great conflict of our time and is burning gas like a hot air balloonist on ...balloons.  That 'sabotage' of the Nord Stream pipeline was in fact the landlord mainlining several million Btus straight to Heaton Mersey where portraits of a maniacally cackling Vladimir Putin now hang in place of the TV screens.  The Griffin are thoughtfully giving us a preview of what life will be like in the arid deserts of The Heatons and the unliveable climate of Stockport a couple of years down the line.


Incey Wincey Hale

(R2/Q1)


Our hosts had disconcertingly taken the away team bench despite this being their home fixture but we could not be knocked off our stride by this and duly lost the toss in time-honoured fashion.  Channelling Nasser at The Gabba, Damian inserted us (!) and then channelled Nasser even more as Barry despatched our first question of the season for a two with minimal fuss.   

David is half way through a six week penance walking the Camino de Santiago - God only knows what he's seeking absolution for - so Seat Three was occupied by Thomas still basking in his Question of the Week award from our paper for the season's first match.   Thomas got a long delayed reward for enduring ball-achingly dull visits to Botanical Gardens  enjoying fun and informative trips to attractions when on summer holiday as a child, nailing Ventnor for a two and following that up with the Trussterf**k's married name which, we assume, her improbable husband is trying to disown quicker than he's trying to disown the PM herself.

The runaway winner for the biggest howler in living WithQuiz memory award fell to Barry who didn't in the slightest behave in a 'Jordan Hendersonesque' manner for the next two or three rounds (he told me to write that) - and Barry doesn't even claim Irish ancestry. I played up the (third generation) Old Erin outrage instead, Thomas carpet-bagging at one further remove. Being six years out on the release date of Nights in White Satin was an admirable attempt at a follow up. 


A camera looks back on itself

(R2/Q4)


We're underway with a win against a side we failed to beat last season and sit a so-so third in the early league table.  Next week the league's two remaining 100% records clash at The Didsbury so something has to give.  I wasn't very impressed with The Didsbury a few months' back though The Albert were excellent hosts and good company as ever.  Let's see if things on Wilmslow Road have improved in the intervening time.  Chances are it won't feel like a sauna but there are no guarantees about the quality of the beer which, incidentally, was hopeless in The Griffin tonight.  Maybe it's being kept at too high a temperature. 


Un Immortel

(R5/Q3)


 Damian, the Valiant, reports ...

Our first derby match of the season, and Barry's warning to us last week that his team were out for revenge after a recent series of losses to us, came good.  We fought valiantly but  KFD stayed ahead in every round and were worthy winners.  At least we had a full team out tonight (with a possible spare to boot)  which helped make the scoreline a bit more respectable for us than last week's.  On the plus side we all scored twos and conferred reasonably well but KFD scored just a few more and conferred a bit better which made the difference.


Electric Pigs lost to Prodigals

The Pigs' brief spell at the top is rudely upended by the Prods


The O'Learys

(R7/Q6)


The Hunts

(R1/Q1)


Opsimaths lost to Ethel Rodin

High-scoring all round but Greg's IoW honeymoon tips the balance

Mike sums up from the QM chair...

Great to be back in the hot seat observing two of the league's heavyweight teams slug it out in the Club's rear lounge.  This is a very comfortable venue these days with sofas and coffee tables replacing the austerity of the old 'sit-up' chairs and trestle tables.

Perhaps the home team lounged just a little too much in the face of some determined opposition as Ethel swanned home largely on account of their superior knowledge of the Isle of Wight.  It seems Greg had his honeymoon on the Isle accompanied by a charabanc full of OAPs - oh, and his wife.  So Ventnor, Jimi Hendrix and the River Medina all chined with him.  By contrast the Opsis huffed and puffed about the iniquity of a whole round on an island somewhat more boring than even Jersey.  Interesting debate at the end as to how big/significant a sliver of the UK has to be to merit a whole round.  Wales?  Yes, certainly.  Manchester?  Of course!  Derbyshire?  In the hands of the late Dave Barras, indisputably.  Isle of Wight?  Well, the jury's still out.

Perhaps the secret of Ethel's success, however, lay in the subtle switch made this season by cerebral skipper, Roddy, who has moved himself up to Chair One and slid Geoff down to Chair Two.  Such tactical nous can define a whole season.  We shall see!  With James in Chair Three scoring 6 twos and Greg following up the rear (I beg your pardon, Greg) with an impressive 7 twos Ethel still look a formidable bunch ready to challenge for the title.

A word of consolation for Nick, Brian, Emma and Howell who scored a mighty 41 points and would have won the contest had it not been for a disastrous 9-1 reversal on the infamous IoW round. 


The Byrnes

(R1/Q4)


Bards beat History Men

Bards go top with a 2-point win at the Parrswood

Arch-blurter Ivor owns up ...

A week is a long time in quizzing.  After our unexpected win last week against the Prodigals in our new home venue, the Parrswood, we returned there for our first away game of the season against old rivals the Bards.  Of course the Bards are no longer an 'old team' as their youth development programme is the best developed in the league and has even skipped a generation with the regular appearance of Tony’s grandson Tom.  In contrast the Historymen recruits (if any) are already more than half way to that nice card that King Charles sends out occasionally.

Unfortunately neither team was able to bag the usual quiet area as there seemed to be a rather serious committee meeting (or writing group) there in such numbers that it was not worth trying Tony’s magisterial diplomacy, or even Anne’s more direct version, to try and persuade them to swap rooms so we ended up in the other snug.  This was not a bad alternative.  The chairs surely rivalled what Tony would have had on the Bench, and, with a bit of light fittings adjustment, there was sufficient illumination to welcome Mike H as QM.  Mike has a foot in both team squads so he is probably the most disinterested QM in the league. 


Jimi at Freshwater

(R4/Q4)


We lost, but only by 2 points.  The Bards won on steals (3-0) which made up for their inferior two rate (9-13).  We were in the lead by the time Round 6 came to a close.  Then forsaking our customary practice of imploding in Round 8 we decided to blow up in Round 7 instead.  Perhaps we were doomed by the blurt we managed in the first round - and an unusual one at that.  I was the blurter and in 20 years of quizzing I have not had one like it.  It was a 'wrong person answered' incident as I was sitting in Seat 4 and answered Seat 3’s question.  As the person in Seat 3 was Anne, and the question was the easiest two of the evening, regular readers can imagine the scorn, contempt and fury that this generated as we had to accept just a single point as if it were a conferred answer.  Putin was probably less annoyed by that Crimean bridge explosion.  No doubt I will be reminded of this just as frequently as I am reminded of my infamous 'Mancunian/Manchurian' blurt.  Just as well we lost by more than a single point. 


All aquiver - like father, like son

(R6/Q6)


Quiz paper set by...

...Albert

Average Aggregate score 80.5


No low-scoring here, as Ethel and the Opsis racked up a massive 88 point aggregate.  Plenty of variety in the style of round on offer too: Run-ons, Hidden themes, a full tester on the most populous constituency in the UK (the IoW if you didn't know), a couple of 'spot the connection' rounds and some pot luck/pot pourri fare in between.

By the way is there a difference between 'pot luck' and 'pot pourri'?  They seem to have become interchangeable terms for describing rounds made up of the ragbag of leftover questions?

Finally as a QM this week a shout out for the elegant way the paper was laid out.  A pleasure to read!  Many thanks, Albert.


IoW royal playhouse

(R4/Q2)


James adds his thoughts on the 'IoW round' debate...

Some discussion in The Albert Club as to the validity of a round totally based on the Isle of Wight.  And, by extrapolation, any round based on one county/city/ mountain/holiday (notwithstanding that there was a well received round based on the Peak District last week).

Ethel were put at an advantage here, as both Roddy and I had visited the IoW, and best of all, Greg had spent his honeymoon there many moons ago (it won’t have changed much since then).  We won that round 8-1 (or maybe even 9-1, I'm not sure) which was essentially the difference that ensured Ethel won on the night.

To be fair, two questions weren’t really about the IoW at all; Lymington is in Hampshire and 'Swiss Cottage' was essentially a lateral thinking question about London.  The 'Carisbrooke Castle' one was surely just a general knowledge question, and has to be in the list of the top three facts most quizzers should know about the IoW.  

I’ve often been frustrated about whole rounds on Scottish Islands or Lake District hills where the setter clearly knows the area well but in order to know the obscure answer, you need to have visited the same places.

Personally I think so long as a round on a specific location isn’t just focused on esoteric detail, then it’s fair game.  If the score in the round had been 0-0 then it would clearly have been poor.  But in fact every answer in the round was known by someone, or in most cases 2 or 3 in the room.  It’s just that by chance those 2 or 3 were all in the same team.  That’s the way quizzes go sometimes. 


What was Kieran's take on the paper...

Albert's Jeremy QM'd and despite the odd blooper it was an excellent paper.  Five unanswereds each, twelve twos for us against ten for our hosts and nothing that evoked a "meh" on either side.


More boring than even Jersey?

(Round 4)


...and Damian's...

With Albert's Jeremy kindly QMing for us I think we all enjoyed his team's paper.  It played to our strengths here and there and also exposed our weaknesses here and there, but, by and large, was mostly well balanced.

The question about the Bechdel test for filmmakers seemed to garner approval as the candidate for Question of the Week.  Funniest answer of the week definitely fell to KFD captain Kieran who racked his brains for agonising minutes to try and find the right answer to which language had a written form called 'Bokmal'.  When, probably more in hope than expectation, he desperately offered up "Klingon?" we all felt he should have got a point for the laughs.  That was definitely one of those wrong answers that should have been so right! 


and finally Ivor comments...

The quiz itself generated a good combined score.  My favourite questions were the well-balanced 'Tennis sex/gender battles' pair.  Some tricky questions too: how quickly we forget Royal Funeral code names (or maybe never knew them in the first place).  The theme rounds were easily cracked but sadly the number of areas in Greater Manchester and the potential number of 'AZ' answers still made these rounds challenging.  I was amazed that a whole round on the Isle of Wight was even possible, but as the IoW is allegedly stuck in the 1970s perhaps the Historymen should have done better.  Wait for our up and coming round on Tasmania! 


Question of the Week

This week KFD and the Chara both felt that  Round 5 Question 6 was a cracker...

What criterion must a film satisfy in order to pass the Bechdel test (for sexism)?

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


Taking the piss out of London

(R8/Q5)