It's a really sad
week this week since I have to report the death of
our founding member Barry Whitehead.
Barry started the
Withington and Didsbury Quiz League back in 1977 as
a continuation of a local quiz tournament.
Along with colleague John Turrell, Barry trekked
around the pubs and clubs of Withington and Didsbury
drumming up support for a local, regular quiz league
and in 1977 matches started on a league basis.
Without Barry's persistence the enterprise would
never have lasted as it did. The format Barry
devised at the start (8 rounds of 8 questions; two
points for an individual answer but just one for a
conferred answer, etc.) has lasted intact ever
since.
Barry played for a
variety of Red Lion teams down the years but ended
his playing career with the Electric Pigs based at
the Fletcher Moss just a few years ago. As a
quizzer he was always quietly spoken and courteous,
a delight to spend the evening with and always full
of fascinating facts.
Many of us enjoyed
catching up with Barry at the WithQuiz 40th
anniversary celebration in 2017 where he was rightly
fêted by his quizzing mates.
Barry, you should rest
in peace knowing that it was your imagination that
has given so much innocent pleasure to so many down
the intervening 45 years.
Many thanks.
Catherine, Barry's
daughter, has asked us to let her know how many
WithQuizzers wish to come to the funeral so that she
can manage numbers. Martin from KFD is in
touch with Catherine. Can you please let him
know (mlbrom@tiscali.co.uk)
if you intend to go. This site will give
details of funeral arrangements when they're known.
(Click
here
for the 'WithQuiz at 40' pages which give more
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Charabancs
lost to Ethel Rodin
Ethel win to go level on points at the top
The
anatomy of a painful minute or so diagnosed by Dr
James ...
A well constructed quiz that kept both teams in the
game until the end. Ethel’s seat change
strategy continues to pay dividends. A shout
out for John standing in for an unwell Geoff
tonight.
Charabancs were good value and will surely win games
this season - Damian in particular had a very strong
match. I’m sure he’ll have told you of his
frustrations around whether a siege was a battle
(ED: No actually he's surprisingly reticent on the
matter judging by his report below). A
better phrased question would have led to him
getting a two for Vienna instead of Ethel getting
the steal. Thankfully for everyone, the
winning margin was just enough to mean that this
wasn’t crucial in the end. In team discussion
before it came over, we wondered whether the
question paired with the Quasi-Chancellor PhD one
would be another incompetent Tory. Something
of a tough pairing in the end, but John dredged it
from somewhere.
"Just hold it there, Dicky, I need to get that
down before I walk off"
(R1/Q6)
A few really good conferred answers from Ethel -
where nobody knew the answer on their own but
individuals all gave small amounts of information
that allowed us to get there in the end. It
almost worked for The Battle of The Silver Spurs
too, but unfortunately the alliteration round was
later on.
No team discussion about the female author
question, but sometimes silence and the speed of
everyone else’s hand reaction tell you a lot.
Literature is a part of my knowledge base that is
considerably lacking. I haven’t had time to
read many of the classics, (or any Booker Prize
winners). I refuse to learn lists in lieu of
experiential learning opportunities. So, the
question about the 1882-born author of Mrs
Dalloway came to me. I’d not heard of it,
nor the one about the Lighthouse. All three of
my team mates clearly have done, and thrust out
their hands, all 15 fingers on display, in such a
way as to give the message “how the **** don’t you
know this?!?!”. So no pressure... it was a close
game. We needed the points. We certainly
didn’t need a blurt. It was worth thinking for
a while. There’s a US State involved.
"Hey, Liz, you'll never guess what I'm going to
do next week"
(R7/Q3)
I start on the West coast. This does not help.
The state is going to be the first name, surely?
The flyover states are similarly unhelpful.
Dakota Fanning’s name enters my consciousness taking
me even further away. Then the East coast.
Starting at the bottom. No Floridas.
Georgia O’Keeffe - but surely she’s an artist.
Carolina! That’ll be it. Maybe James Taylor
was singing about someone called Carolina and not
about his childhood home. I now had to get
Carolina out of My Mind - because even if there was
an author here, she probably wasn’t going to be a
North or a South. Nor an East or a West.
But hang on! There isn’t an East Virginia, it’s just
Virginia. Virginia Plain? Virginia Wade?
Virginia Woolf! I’ve heard of her. She
was in that pretentious group in Bloomsbury, who
always seemed to just be famous for being the
Bloomsbury Group.
Henry looks to his discoveries
(R2/Q6)
The 15 fingers have by now become 35 fingers as all
members of the other team clearly all know this too.
So I have a person who fits the bill. An
author with a state name, probably from about the
right period. But I literally do not know
whether it’s correct - and right until the moment I
say it, I’m still in fear that this is going to turn
out to be a blurt of Ivoresque proportions.
But two points it was and I was saved the blushes
and the indignity of Roddy’s scorn.
Adrenaline, relief… such is the enjoyment and appeal
of our great WithQuiz tradition.
And so, finally, this gives an opportunity for a
shout out and a tribute to Barry Whitehead for his
work in helping put all this mad nonsense together
all those years ago.
Damian
keeps plugging those philosophers ...
The words of Samuel Beckett continue to inspire us
as we go into our third week of the season without a
win. 'Ever tried. Ever failed. No
matter. Try again. Fail again.
Fail better'. So we failed better this week
than we did in the previous two weeks by scoring
more points. Hopefully we will soon fail
better enough that we will achieve a victory.
So Sam B remains our guide and inspiration! Yet
again it was not a bad effort from us. We all
scored twos; just not quite as many as our
opponents. And how do you get steals when Greg
from Ethel knows pretty much EVERYTHING. After
thinking long and hard, and giving us false
hope, he still always manages to come out with the
right answer.
Oscar's Penny
(R2/Q2)
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Sting in the tail expert
(R7/Q4)
Prodigals
beat Opsimaths
Prodigals top-score with an impressive victory in
the Club derby
Mike
reports from the Club back lounge...
First I am saddened to have to report a bullying
incident as I was waiting to vote on R6Q8. A
large imposing, elderly Bard (who seemed to be in
control of events) threatened he would take me
outside and give me a good kicking if I didn't get
it right. As it happens I know nothing of the
Lion King and had to abstain from the vote
and defer to my fellow party members (who picked up
the point on my behalf). 'Taking outside for a
good kicking' may be the way some carried out
summary justice in our court system but all I can
say in reply to Tony (for it was he) is "on your
Potteries Bus, mate!".
So to the match... In the end a comfortable win for
the excellent Prodigals (John, Richard, Michael and
Ann-Marie) who went ahead early and held on for the
win despite some mid-game rallying from Emma, Nick,
Hilary and myself. Emma is starting to add
coverage for those areas of knowledge on which the
Opsis have been traditionally weak (e.g. pop culture
post-1970s) although this time round she was cursed
with classical music and Euro football stars.
Probably the best Opsi answer of the evening I could
recall was Nick working out that the alliterative
Nazi thug who had been a devout catholic in his
youth was Herr Himmler (R8Q3).
The Opsis have yet to win this season so beware the
rest of you, we are hungry! On the other side
of the table the Prodigals used last night to get
back to the top of the table where they rested for
pretty much all of last season.
Once the friendly quizzing rivalry had been put to
bed we got to discussing the seriously dysfunctional
behaviour of our elected rabble at Westminster.
All I can say is if this disgraceful 6/7 years of
Tory selfish mayhem has ended the prospects of there
ever being another Tory Government in my lifetime
some good will have come of things. Make no
mistake Brexit is to blame! And as for Suella
Braverman the internet is too sensitive to take the
sort of descriptive language we used.
Finally as a reminder of the weight of history (Opsimaths
40 wins; Prodigals 24 wins) here's a shot of
Anne-Marie receiving the Orkney Dark trophy
post-match from non-playing Opsi, Brian. The
fact that they're both leaning away from the toxic
trophy is the fear that this 30-year old unopened
bottle of Highland poison might explode and kill
them both.
Albert
tied with KFD
A thriller at The Didsbury ends in a tie
Speaking
from a slightly loftier perch than usual Mike O'B
reports ...
As the result suggests a
really exciting contest played in a very sporting
atmosphere. The Run Ons, as usual, were
popular although my personal favourite of the
evening was the Carrotblanca question. Who can
forget a skunk that modelled himself on Charles
Boyer? I was pleased to see questions on
Chelsea Bridge and Sloane Square since I grew up
close to both those locations. It all provided a
fitting tribute on the night we learnt of the
passing of Barry Whitehead a 'Founding Father' of
the League.
Speaking personally it made me
glad I had postponed my Brazilian Butt lift in order
to QM.
"Here's looking at you, Kid"
(R2/Q7)
Kieran's
usual brio is calmed by the sad news of Barry ...
Tonight's report was going to be some sort of riff
on LINO Liz and the interesting times in which we
find ourselves. You can imagine how it would
have gone: me NOT, repeat NOT, cowering under a
desk, Barry, eyes on the prize, remaining
tight-lipped, David chillingly stroking a white cat
within sight of his ultimate objective of Santiago.
But, y'know Tom Lehrer: "I can't satirise this s**t"
and all that. And then there was the very sad
news about Barry Whitehead and my regular rubbish no
longer seemed appropriate.
Catholic turned Nazi
(R8/Q3)
Barry was my original contact in the quiz league; to
be completely accurate he was Sean Reagan's contact
and Sean dragged me along for the ride. We've lost
so many big characters from our harmless pastime
recently and none bigger than Barry. A gentleman in
every sense and a quiz enthusiast without whom none
of us would be here forty odd years on from his
original idea. Thanks Barry and bless you -
you were responsible for all of us having so much
fun over such a long time. Surely we're now
competing for the 'Barry Whitehead Memorial Shield'
aren't we Mike? (ED: Seems a shoo-in of an
idea to me, Kieran)
David's back next week, maybe. After tonight's
performance from our "he's one of our own" academy
graduate , David might have to content himself with
that cat for a while.
Next week our first home game and a reunion with
another league big beast, Bogota Bob. That's if he's
back in the country. Cruella's (carefully planned)
self destruction might make that easier in the short
term but taking a longer view I'd rather be in
Philadelphia or just about anywhere else.
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History
Men lost to Electric Pigs
The Pigs join Ethel and the Prods, equal on
points at the top
Ivor
muses over managing his team's decline...
We continue our gradual decline to the foothills of
the league table. We were the lowest scoring
of any team tonight. In mitigation we had to
play a three-handed home game. Sadly we only
have a small pool of players and QMs so increasingly
illness and holidays makes team selection difficult.
I imagine other teams have similar problems
including the malign effect of Wednesday night
Association Football on player availability.
It was fortunate that Everton were elsewhere
otherwise Mrs C and her brother would have been
elsewhere as well. But both were available for
the Parrswood cockpit where we took on old rivals
the Electric Pigs. Some of us played the
Electric Pigs at the Gerry Hennessey/Barry Whitehead
Monday Red Lion Quiz in the late 80s.
Incredible to think that is a third of a century ago
but Gerry and Barry are very fondly remembered.
John Redwood lines up for this week's Tory PM
competition
(R8/Sp4)
We had a very bad start and were 9 points behind
after only two rounds and despite some improvement
we could not whittle away this deficit.
Over the eight rounds the quiz was very well
balanced and for those on the spectrum who like
stats (is that a few, many or most of the quizzing
fraternity?) there were 6 unanswereds (3-3), 8
steals (4-4) and it was the superior two rate (8-10)
that saw the Pigs across the line.
Starts to cross the road, then....
(R5/Sp)
Quiz paper
set by...
...Bards
Average Aggregate score 82.3
This
was a wonderful paper with loads of points on offer,
and, for the third week running, it beat the average
aggregate score from the preceding week. Tony,
who acted as a perfect QM at the Club (never mind
what that grouchy old match correspondent said
above), gave due credit to Bard Jim who now acts as
chief editor when it's their turn to set.
My
own favourite was the very first question of the
evening which took us about 10 minutes to work out
but eventually we got right. It came at the
start of a really good hidden theme round.
Close behind in my list of favourite questions was
the question that linked gymnastics and gory
gangsterdom as only the Run On format can do.
Thanks Bards, you did us proud.
...and this was Damian's take on the paper...
Another good paper, this week with a lot of variety.
We especially liked the American states, and the
alliterative rounds - and of course the Run Ons (a
perennial favourite). John forgot the
alliterative theme when he suggested Joseph Stalin
as the guy who pooh-poohed Christianity's chances
back in 1937 but he may have been getting his own
back on me for mistakenly drinking his half of
bitter earlier. Not at all keen on the
American football and London tube station questions,
as I barely follow British sporting events never
mind foreign ones and London tube stations are a
long standing bugbear of mine. Not everybody
knows enough about London to answer questions on its
travel network and they're just not interesting
enough in themselves to constitute valid general
knowledge in my humble opinion.
Hitler's 'Little Fat Sergeant'
(R8/Q4)
...and Kieran's verdict...
Tonight's quiz? A cracker from The Bards.
Only three unanswereds, the first five rounds drawn,
The Albert taking a one point lead in Round 6 and
maintaining that lead until we just managed to level
it up again at the start of the final round. I
was hopeless but Thomas was brilliant, scoring four
consecutive twos in Rounds 3 to 6 which, with a
little more match practice, would have been six twos
from the off. He was the only reason we got
anything out of the game.
...and Ivor casts his twopennyworth...
Both teams agreed this was one of the Bard’s better
quizzes for some time with plenty of variety and
plenty of clues in the question text to help dissect
what was initially thought to be impossible.
Of course one has to listen carefully and if we had
we might have picked up on Bognor rather than
Craigweil House as the main hint being given in the
first question of the evening. Also we might
have rumbled that the “eponymous” in the question
was the crucial reason why Anna Tellwright could not
have been in The Secret Garden. Much to
Mrs C’s contempt (Alison was QM) I misled our team
into thinking Claudius was the father of Hamlet and
fruitlessly trying to think of a cartoon ghost with
the name of a music genre in the name.
After two decades of
obscure WW2 battles it would appear that these are
now exhausted as questions and a certain Bard has
moved on to obscure (at least to us) European
conflicts from the 14th and 17th centuries.
Sadly despite our name we were sorely tested. As
always failures are tempered by successes and it
only takes one satisfying correct answer trawled out
after much thinking (Ray’s Sloane Square, David’s
Francisco Franco) to encourage us to return next
week for another go; much like a poor golfer with a
fourth style of swing.
What a Bugger!
(R1/Q1)
Question of the Week
This week I'm making the choice and I've gone
for the very first question of the evening, Round 1 Question
1...
Who retired for three months in 1929 to Craigweil
House in Bognor, Sussex?
For the answer to this and all the week's other
questions click
here.
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