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2nd November 2022

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Barry Whitehead's funeral will be at the Small Chapel, Southern Cemetery at 11.30am on Friday November 4th (i.e. Friday this week)

Please let Martin (mlbrom@tiscali.co.uk) know if you plan to be there and he'll inform Barry's family

Marvellously balanced evening with two tied matches;

KFD go top after winning at the Fletcher Moss

Albert tied with Opsimaths

Bards tied with Prodigals

Charabancs lost to History Men

Electric Pigs lost to KFD

Albert tied with Opsimaths

The tie specialists slug it out

Ashton gets his own back against an absent MOBO ...

With the O'Brien house reclassified as a sick bay, Albert were shorn of both Mike and Stephen last night.  Our occasional call-upons were all unavailable so we were a three-handed team, and we would have struggled to muster up even that many had Jeremy's wife Deborah not been available to step into Mike's QM shoes thanks to a rare night off for her choir.  What a change to have requests for a question re-read met with an even-tempered smile rather than a curmudgeonly growl. 


I'm coming to get you, mate!

(R4/Q7)


The contest was always close.  Opsimaths took each of the first three rounds by a point before we cut the gap in the middle section.  A four point lead going into the last round looked as if it might be enough for our opponents but we hauled them in and with both sides pinching the other's education secretary in the final pair.  A draw was the outcome.

Twos were at a premium, at least in the first half of the quiz, and it became clear early on that there would be no 50-plus scores tonight.  Jeremy is fast losing his reputation as our go-to classical music maven.  His sniffy argument that being asked to name Jacqueline du Pré's sister was more of a celebrity gossip question failed to convince the rest of the team.  I do think he may be going a little soft.  I came back from the bar at the end of the quiz to find him magnanimously telling all who would listen that a draw was the right and just result for such an enjoyable and close contest.  I could only give silent thanks that our stricken captain was not present to hear such a calm, dishonourable, vile submission. There's no place in Mike's 'win-at-all costs' Albert team for such namby-pamby nonsense.


Du Pré wind

(R5/Q6)


...while Howell supervises a load of dripping Opsimtahs ...

Some rough weather around at the start of the quiz last night!

Having collected the questions, Brian got soaked by a number 142 bus walking along Wilmslow Road; on the way to the Didsbury, Jeremy's wife (our QM for the evening) rang him to ask if he could bring her a spare pair of trousers to replace her soaked jeans; and Zuki (the dog she was walking) came in soaking and was still dripping half way through the quiz.

Albert were 3-handed due to illness and, for the start, so were the Opsis since Emma who had been bang on time at the Albert Club for a home match had to hotfoot it over to The Didsbury and didn't turn up until part way through Round 1.

On a somewhat wordy paper Deborah (Jeremy's missus) did a sterling job.  She was friendly and competent, which was lucky as she needed to expend a good deal of patience waiting as the teams struggled towards and, then often away from, the right answers. 

The quiz was tight.  The Opsis were 25-26 down after 6 rounds with no more than 3 points between the teams up to that point.  Round 7 went 7-2 to the Opsimaths before the final round went 6-2 to the Albert leaving the teams level for the only time in the evening. 

I had a bit of brain freeze in the final round giving 'Disraeli' as an answer to the PM question when I should have been thinking of a PM from a very different era.  

The match was 33-33 with 2 questions to go.  The final 2 questions both ended up as steals - which was unusual but felt par for the course at the end of this quiz.


The Naughty Chair

(R2/Sp)


Bards tied with the Prodigals

Another tie at the Parrswood as the Prods forfeit their top spot

Drenched and dripping Michael shares his notebook ...

In the vast and empty badlands of the Parrswood Inn, we sheltered from the storm.  Or rather, most of us did; Richard and I got drenched on the way.

The Prodigals raced into a 14-9 lead after two rounds but, as the scoring slackened, the Bards (and especially palaeontologist Robin) reeled us in, demonstrating some impressive knowledge of Chinese utensils and theoretical physics.  As for the Prodigals, some uncharacteristic blurting and a few poor choices on 50:50 answers saw us squander that early lead, while the Bards conferred well to rescue James Cleverly from obscurity and secure a share of the points. It was a fair result between two teams that, as QM Tony observed, were very evenly matched.


Bratby: The epitome of mid-50s British Art

(R6/Q4)


"My Dear Old Thing"

(R2/Q4)


Charabancs lost to History Men

History Men edge a close match

Ivor claims to have "No idea" ...

Back to the Griffin to play our old (and ageing) friends the Charabancs whom we have known since they were the little acorns in the mighty Brains of Oak team that used to vie with us for second place in the league in that golden era when Kieran’s boys ruled the roost.  But empires decline and fall (well perhaps not Kieran’s just yet) but Damian and I now feel like (and maybe even look like) Shelley’s Ozymandias.  We have our annual needle matches to determine who will be bottom and who second bottom in the league - and at times we mutter a silent prayer that there is no such thing as relegation and everyone else is too polite to insist on re-election criteria. 

Every game has something new and different.  Tonight the novelty was having two spectators checking out if pub-quizzing might be for them.  Our youth on the bench was Ben (though he is only a few years younger than Young David who is 50).  Ben is a classics master.  Most quizzers have "small Latin and less Greek” (as Jonson condemned Shakespeare) so perhaps he will add to our armamentarium.  We are assuming he was not so horrified by our team that he will never be seen again.  The Charas had Young Dennis on the bench who came on at half time last week but, perhaps sensibly, stayed there this time round. 


Greatest dancer of all time and her brother

(R5/Q5)


Tonight’s game was a game of eight halves with violent swings of fortune.  We won the first round 8-2 and lost the second 1-6.  But by the end of Round 6 we were 12 points ahead.  That lead was whittled away with a 3-8 Round 7 and then we had to hang on losing the last round 2-4. 

The game was also unusual in that there were 14 steals (8 for us and 6 for the Charas) but what this suggests about the questions or the answerers is uncertain (actually I have no idea!).


Oversexed Metrosexual

(R1/Q5)


Damian's still waiting ...

Well, it wasn't as bad as last week's humiliation but it was still another loss.  We certainly failed better than last week  but only managed to equal our average score for the past 5 weeks of this season.  Not so much failing better as treading water.  I can see Sam B shaking his head wherever he hangs out these days.  I do hope we can manage to do him proud  at some point. 


Short in every department

(R8/Q5)


Electric Pigs lost to KFD

KFD march to the top

Kieran weaves his football tales with the occasional quizzing reference ...

A rather chewy offering from Ethel saw us go top of the table for the first time since, oh I don't know when - but at least three Prime Ministers ago.  

Despite spending the last six weeks in northern Spain, David hadn't had enough of Iberia and decided to take in City reserves vs Sevilla's second string, an entertainment chiefly memorable for Bury boy Rico Lewis auditioning for the latest remake of A Star Is Born.  This meant a fourth consecutive appearance for Thomas (six on the bounce if you count the last two games of last season).  He's clearly no longer an occasional sub but now an important member of what I can only describe as a squad.  I have a week by week selection decision to make - well unless Sick Boy throws another one in on match day as he's been known to do.  

Speaking of our man in the Bismarck Sea, it was good to have him back fully recovered and in top form easing to the MVP accolade with five twos.  Barry's extraordinary breadth of knowing stuff was displayed at its best tonight in questions on geography, horticulture and crap TV from thirty years ago.  Polymath really isn't the right term for our veteran opener.  While Barry was shooting Ethel's sweated-over 'fish in a barrel', Thomas morphed into an assist king, prodding and nudging here and there as a vital part of KFD's famed confer huddle.  Jeez kid what a tough gig, going from Robot Boy to the Ginger Prince but we all have evenings like this, don't let it get to you.     

Less welcome was that the Fletcher Moss's card machines absolutely refused to take Thomas's money (until he bought himself a 'hollow legs' late on) so dad ended up springing for two rounds.  Maybe this making the team a family affair isn't all it's cracked up to be.  

At the end of the quiz I texted Mike B the result as did Pig QM Andrew.  Mine read "Pigs 25 KFD 44" and Councillor Simcock's as you would expect was similar.  Except it stated "Pigs 44 KFD 25".  Mike actually asked which was correct!  To give him his due Andrew immediately apologised and corrected the error.  A politician saying sorry and putting the record straight?  He's going to get that profession a good name if he goes on like this though, thoroughly good egg that he is, I fear that transformation is beyond even him.  

Next week the Opsis are up at the Griffin.  Ah, that clash which I've written about at great length for many years.  Wonder how it will play out this time?  No idea but it's late and I shouldn't still be here.  I've just got a few minutes to watch videos of burning stands at the Partizan vs Red Star game, happy days.  

See you next week Mike. 


The not so grown-ups

(R8/Q6)


Quiz paper set by...

...Ethel Rodin

Average Aggregate score 70.0


I was away at the Etihad last night so I'll refrain from comment on the paper other than to note that the average aggregate slipped about 10 points from the dizzying heights we've been experiencing over the past few weeks.  Not necessarily a bad thing!


Not just the Town Hall - Victorian Gothic Manchester

(R3/Q8)


...and this was Ashton's take on the paper...

Despite the low scores, the quiz was very good and certainly kept things close.  For reasons we can't fathom, the Albert team does seem to be quite good at keeping our 'points against' column low, even if this doesn't translate to a higher tally in our 'points for' total.  God knows how you 'park the bus' in a quiz match, but with a man down we had to try and do so last night.  I suppose the reason is that we tend to take the safe option of a confer at the expense of racking up individual glory.

Last night's questions seemed to offer plenty of chance to confer as the questions hit the sweet spot (from a setter's point of view) of generally being known by one person in each team, but usually not the person asked.  I'd suggest that is the mark of a well-set question: taxing, but not impossible.  A quiz full of 2s can be as unsatisfactory as one full of 0s.  My only slight quibble would be the preponderance of paired rounds, but then perhaps we have been spoiled of late with new and interesting formats.


"Education, Education, Education"

(R8/Q7-8-Sp1)


...so what did Damian think...

In the company of Ivor and his merry crew, we found tonight's paper an interesting assortment of themes and  subject matter albeit a tad on the tough side with much lengthy conferring taking place on many of the questions.  Inspiration (I managed to dredge up 'Bismarck Sea' from somewhere) coupled with frustration (if only I'd remembered  that Roger Rabbit was framed and not shot) seemed to be the order of the night.  We barely finished in time for last orders so we decided to take a rain-check on the round of drinks that the Historymen were about to buy us at the end as some of us had to leave due to the lateness of the hour.  Don't worry Ivor, we won't forget! 


Aussie: underhand and underarm

(R3/Q7)


...Michael adds these thoughts from the Parrswood...

This was a decent but difficult paper, we thought.  Even though the pace slowed dramatically in the second half, there was plenty of variety in the subject matter and I'm not sure that anyone in any seat felt especially unfavoured, which is always an encouraging sign.


... and this is what Howell had to say ...

To me, the quiz was hard-going.  I'm not  saying unfair as the balance seemed perfectly OK - but more that there was a lot of detail appearing in each question with a fair amount of "what was the actual question" as people lost track of what they were being asked for.


... and Ivor has the last word ...

This was an interesting quiz with plenty of help in the themes and phraseology as well as an unusually broad spectrum of knowledge required: life, the universe and everything (quite literally given questions on GUT and QCD).

It was a long match for us.  The first round gave a jocular start, but like the frog being slowly boiled in the pot the heat and difficulty gradually, but inexorably, increased.  All good fun really.  It is only after the quiz and looking at the paper that we could discern some very clever touches: e.g. the rubric introducing Round 7 as 'A Round of Hidden Pairs'; or the false trail in Round 2 when we were searching for Shakespeare characters rather than literary villains; or the cunningly hidden 'White' phrases/words in Round 3.

Of course I am always sympathetic to setters - especially a week before we have to set our own quiz and more so when we have to follow a very good one.  Many the time I have felt like the man who was allocated Einstein’s office after the latter’s retirement from Princeton.  And if our quiz is condemned next week I will feel like Arnold Sommerfeld (who appears to be the Jimmy White of Physics) and who sadly tonight was one of the 9 unanswereds.


Question of the Week

No specific nominations from our correspondents this week so for the second week running I've chosen the very first question of the evening from the 'Punny Old World' round (could this type of question catch on?) ...

The name of which breed of dog is the Wade-Giles romanization of the Chinese characters for 'lion'?  You might find it in a poorly performing menagerie.

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


The Lion Dog

(R1/Q1)


...and also

Nice little tale this week courtesy of Andrew Simcock....

Mike Casey, a constituent of his (Andrew is the councillor for Didsbury East) got in touch to remind Andrew of an incident a few years ago on quiz night in the Fletcher Moss.  Andrew had been QM in a match between Albert and the Pigs and asked the question:

"According to recent suggestions what title might Prince Charles adopt as king rather than Charles III?"

The answer given in the paper was:

"George VII".

Not surprisingly Mike gave WithQuiz (via Andrew) a mild ticking off for peddling fake news all those years back.

Using the 'Search' facility at the head of this page I was able very quickly to establish that the question (Round 6 Question 6) had been set by the Opsimaths on 2nd March 2005 and that in the match in question the Pigs had won 40-37.

In retrospect the Opsimaths offer HRH their utmost apologies and are happy to offer up Brian (as our 'Setter in Residence') for a brief spell in the Tower.