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23rd November 2022

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Great night for the WithQuiz teams with all bar Ethel proceeding to the Semis in February;

Cheers for the Railway who carry the Stockport flag forward;

Congratulations to the Opsis for emerging with the highest score

WIST Champions Cup

Flying Horse lost to Prodigals

KFD walk over Tiviot

Alexandra lost to Albert

Ethel Rodin lost to Railway

WIST Lowly Grail

Opsimaths beat Wandering Star

Bards beat Horse & Farrier

HMRUFC lost to History Men

Sun & Castle lost to Charabancs

WIST Champions Cup

Flying Horse lost to Prodigals

A comfortable progression to the Semis for the Prods who won by 20 points

Michael ventures to the Left Bank...

For my first away trip in Europe (until last night I had not forded the Mersey for the purposes of a quiz), the Prodigals found themselves at the Horse & Farrier in Gatley.  Sequestered in an upstairs room, with a poignant collection of abandoned shoes guarding the door, we took on the Flying Horse, who played three-handed.  Despite being 9-2 down at one stage, we rallied well, survived a potential cataclysm in the round on Cumbrian lakes, and then relaxed in the familiar terrain of the WithQuiz rounds.  Our hosts were charming and post-quiz conversation turned to Liege's red light district, the culinary 'charms' of tripe and offal, and the self-evident righteousness of putting mayonnaise on chips.


The Blues Brothers

(R5/Q7)


Alexandra lost to Albert

A real nailbiter goes to the visiting WithQuiz team by a single point

Mike tingles with excitement...

What a superb contest created by an excellent paper!  On the last question we were one behind but Stephen knew enough about treacherous American generals to score two points.

The paper itself had some fresh ideas.  For instance we really liked the round based on two words with one letter difference between them.  As is customary by now we scored better on the Stockport section than the WithQuiz part - and as usual the hidden theme remained hidden as far as we were concerned.

In other news...

I have recently received sympathetic communications regarding the state of my Brazilian Butt Lift after Big Olga's (Jacki's Gentleman's Club - entrance round the back) ministrations.  Sad to say the girl was just too rough.  When I first had the procedure, I could balance a tray of champagne glasses on my projecting derrière.  Now I drag myself around as if someone has stuffed a half hundredweight of nutty slack down the back of my trousers!


KFD walk over Tiviot

Unfortunately Tiviot were unable to turn out a team and conceded - KFD advance by default


Ethel Rodin lost to Railway

The Railway travelled to Ladybarn and emerged the sole Stockport survivors

When posting the result, Ethel's skipper, Roddy, commented (as I did from the Opsimaths match - see below) that the questions in Round 1 very much favoured the team going first and that this had a decisive effect on the outcome of the match.


Leaning on a lamppost in Cumbria

(R1/Q1)


WIST Lowly Grail

Opsimaths beat Wandering Star

The Opsis notched up a whacking 62 points winning the toss and going first

From the comfy sofa in the back lounge of the Club Mike reports...

First of all many thanks to the Wandering Star for being such friendly opponents.  They had every reason to drop their heads as they lost the toss and the Opsimaths chose to go first.  By halfway through the 30-question Round 1 the Wanderers hadn't a single point whilst the Opsis were well into double figures.  The balance of those first 15 questions was highly skewed in favour of the team taking the odd-numbered questions and once the visitors were that far adrift on the scoreboard it was near impossible to stage a comeback.

Also many thanks to quiz trooper, Anne-Marie who turned out at very short notice to act as QM.  As usual Anne-Marie was clear, informative and entertaining.  Most of the questions in Round 3 (the 'Comedy Gold' round) were preceded by hearty laughter on her part as she embroidered the question with her memories of her 'golden age' TV moments.

As for the Opsimaths we seem to be in good working order.  No Howell this week (he's watching Wales in Qatar) but Mike, Nick, Brian and Hilary clicked through the gears competently.  My main contribution seemed to be slotting home the answers to Mike W's Manchester City posers.  My chief embarrassment on the other hand  was failing to see the word 'menu' nestling in Yehudi Menuhin's name, conferring and then, when the others had nothing to offer, giving the answer I first thought of just as Nick shouted "Menu".


"Ta ra Hilda"

(R1/Q12)


Triturus cristatus

(R1/Q26)


Bards beat Horse & Farrier

The Bards sail through to the Semis on a 19 point winning margin


"Don't tell him, Pike"

(R3/Q7)


HMRUFC lost to History Men

A close run thing at the Rugby club with the History Men edging it

Chuffing victim, Ivor, sums up...

Our first trip away to Stockport for a Europa Cup game (or rather a Lowly Grail match) since we played the Alexandra in pre-pandemic times in February 2020.  Our charming hosts this time were HMRUFC at their cavernous function room in the Heaton Mersey Sports Club. 

Tonight HMRUFC had George, Rachel, Andy and Alan in the hot seats and Jo in the QM chair.  They faced Vanessa, Anne, Young David and me.  At the bar before we played I explained the anachronisms of our team: half of us are not men; and although we are competitive we like to be kind to each other even though occasionally our internal team conferences might appear to the untrained eye as if we are having a mixed martial arts bout.  As it happens there was only one episode of vituperation, and one 'chuff' this week and that was when I blurted “Conchita Fernandez” instead of "Conchita Martinez” as the Wimbledon winner.  I think I must have confused her with the eminent and beautiful Puerto Rican Gigi Fernandez who won many doubles titles.  The unnerving thing is that had that been a million pound answer on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire I would still have got the wrong answer.   All the more reason to keep my quizzing strictly amateur. 


Miruts, the Moscow legend

(R4/Q7)


We won the toss and played first.  We won the Stockport 30-question round 27-16.  We then came unstuck with the written round on the 10 largest lakes in the Lake District losing 7-13.  We must get out more, but consoled ourselves that at least it was not that other worthy quiz staple, the Munros.

So we were 5 points ahead going into the four WithQuiz format rounds which we duly won 23-12.  It is often the case that WithQuiz teams do better with our own format.  Presumably this is because we are more used to being put on the spot for solo questions and making the judgment of whether to 'go for the two' or 'play safe for the one'.  One can be a hero or a zero, a sheep or a goat - especially when a blurt can effectively amount to a 'minus one' if the opponents get the steal.

And have I mentioned the opprobium if one does blurt?  Oh yes, I have (see above).  Certainly HMRUFC could have got a few more points including the occasion when they failed to give "Yehudi Menuhin" as their answer because they couldn't see how it fitted the theme.  That left us with an easy steal. 


"...not necessarily in the right order, Mr Preview"

(R3/Q1)


Sun & Castle lost to Charabancs

A welcome Cup victory for the Charas to banish their league woes


Tel From Russia with Love

(R1/Q26)


Quiz paper set by...

...Stockport League (Mike Wagstaffe)

Average Aggregate score 94.9


Plenty of points on offer and a quiz full of interesting content, as well as attractive round formats in the second (WithQuiz) half.  The chief complaint at the Albert Club was the enormous benefit gained right at the start of the evening by the team going first and enjoying much the easier questions in the first half of Round 1.  We bided our time saying that the second half of this round would skew the advantage the other way but it didn't; it just brought balance back to the scoring.

We liked all the WithQuiz-style themed rounds but special mention must go to the 'Comedy Gold' round which entertained us all, prompting many happy reminiscences.  The Hidden 'Keyboard' round was also much enjoyed including just the right amount of added-value quizwork to keep us all on our toes throughout.


Earth Mother

(R1/Q4)


I'm a great fan of the 'name the top ten ...' Tenable format and the ten largest Lake District lakes proved good fodder for the Round 2 'Written Round'.  The lake missed by both teams at the Club was Crummock Water whilst we both incorrectly included the smaller Buttermere lake which sits just a few yards away from Crummock in the beautiful Buttermere valley.


...in other feedback I've received there was a straightforward 'tick in the box' from Mike O'Brien ...

What a superb contest created by an excellent paper!


"You CAN see the sea. It's over there, between the land and the sky"

(R3/Sp)


...and from Ivor...

The quiz itself was excellent and the Stockport pairs were well matched in both difficulty and pairabilty with only 7 unanswereds.

The four WithQuiz rounds were a delight exemplifying all that is excellent about quiz question construction for theme and topic rounds.  Interesting, gettable by more than one approach, and most of all fun.  One round was literally fun and it is a measure of great comedy that I suspect we could all have recited the very scripts never mind get the answers.  Of course it might have been different if the comedy clips were from more recent shows and, indeed, there have been some dire shows of yesteryear too.

We continued drinks in the bar after and both winners and losers agreed we had all had a good night out.  Much more entertaining than staying at home to watch Belgium play Canada (cannot imagine Likely Lads Terry and Bob worrying about that either).


...and finally from Michael...

As for the quiz itself, we thought some of the pairs in the conferred round might have been unbalanced, but everything probably evened out in the end.  Richard and I suffered palpitations upon the announcement of a round on 'Classic comedy' - intrusive thoughts about minor, racist comedies of the early 1970s came flooding to mind - but, thankfully, this comedy truly was classic.

We can only imagine the delight of the Opsimaths at an entire round on the puddles of the Lake District; the Prodigals managed to name six of them, but I've forgotten them already. 

(ED: As it happens, Michael, the Opsimaths did prove Erie-ly Superior on the Great Lakes of Cumbria)


"Wild, I was absolutely livid!"

(R3/Q3)


Question of the Week

This week the vote goes to Question 8 in the Hidden Theme Round 4.  The overall theme of the round provides just the right degree of difficulty/help and, for Question 8, the thematic element is very nicely disguised...

Sometimes referred to as 'the Mona Lisa of musical instruments' the Soil Stradivarius of 1714 is considered one of the finest violins ever made.  Which musician owned it from 1950 to 1986?

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


Mona Lisa and her smiling owner

(R4/Q8)