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30th November 2022

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KFD just nick another one-pointer to stay top;

Prods beat Albert to leapfrog them into second;

Opsimaths win to head a group of 5 teams on 6 points

Prodigals beat Albert

Ethel Rodin lost to KFD

History Men lost to Opsimaths

Charabancs lost to Bards

Prodigals beat Albert

The Prods go into next week's showdown with KFD on a high

Anne-Marie watches her protégés from the QM chair

The Prodigals brought their 'A' game to the match with some epic dredging of memory banks, especially Jimmy's, as he dragged up Dragnet as the 'controversial' TV series, and Jimmy Baxter as the drunken, Scottish footballer.  Their conferring on the way to a correct answer was a joy to watch.

The quiz really didn't suit our gracious opponents but, as usual, the Albert were their entertaining selves and an enjoyable night was had by all.


The Four Yorkshire Lions

(R7/Q6)


Mike, the fat furry cat puss, purrs from the Club

We lost because we didn't know enough of the answers.  Not that I would have noticed.  These days I am like Bagpuss asleep in the shop window.  The team do not expect me to know anything (and I rarely disappoint them).  They confine themselves to waking me up occasionally.  Apparently it is bad form to curl up and go to sleep under the table. 


The gayest of unions: Erika & Wystan

(R5/Q2)


Ethel Rodin lost to KFD

Yet again KFD squeak home by a  single point

Kieran's nerves are all a -jangle

Ach!  God, this really?  REALLY? We're doing this AGAIN?  Ecstasy and despair right at the end springing from the two simple words Grant Shapps.  Simple names for a complex man or, more accurately, men.  

Ethel never deserved to lose this game; neither did we.  I fulfilled a fantasy by scoring the winning two on the last question about the above named multiple personality disorder, the answer coming to me a nanosecond after the light bulb had shone above Barry's head and five fingers had shot out assuring me we had the draw at the very least.  But I play fourth because of these moments and because I couldn't put that responsibility onto anyone else's shoulders - and also because every couple of years there's the chance of some last second glory and the opportunity to bask in the rare adoration of my team mates.   


X-rater

(R2/Q1)


Martin and Greg somehow scored four and three twos respectively on a very tough, but also very decent, Pigs paper.  Greg and I, both playing fourth, copped for five of the nine unanswereds between us.  Have I ever mentioned my gripe about seat four getting the hardest questions?  Greg of course put away Kendall Jenner on the penultimate question to give Ethel a one point lead and leave it all up to me and the oily conman/fraud for the win.  It took a very long time and an unpleasant rummage through the 'no marks', weirdos, sociopaths and outright bastards currently seated round the cabinet table before the member for Welwyn Hatfield rose like scum to the surface and performed the only useful service of his life - at least as far as I am concerned.  I couldn't look Ethel in the eye as my answer was called correct and our man on the North Korean border punched the air in triumph.  


Bigging up Estée Lauder & Mint Cake

(R8/Q8)


What a night!  Where on earth did David Copperfield and The Country Girls come from?  Just when did Pam Ayres become Benjamin Zephaniah?  A sample of KFD's trademark conferring on the Gazza eight cans of lager and some 'cooked chicken in a hostage' situation question...

Barry: "It's Moat.... Carl Moat?";

Me: "No it's not Carl - it's an unusual name, Rafael?";

All: "No, not Rafael";

Me: " OK, but it begins with an 'R'";

Barry: "It's Raoul, definitely Raoul";

All: "Yes brilliant";

Martin: "There's a film something Raoul, is it Eating Raoul?";

All: "Think so, it's the best we've got anyway".

As an aside just what went through the police commander's mind that night when, in the middle of a negotiation with the most wanted man in Britain, a pissed up Gazza wanders into the scene with a chicken and some beers?  

Too, too draining but also the best reason to leave the house on a midweek night in the middle of winter.  Great fun, genuinely exciting and more brain cells than expected still working.  We've been doing it like this with Ethel for six or seven seasons now and long may it continue.

Next week the Prodigals.  We haven't beaten them since four Prime Ministers back but I can't think about that now.  I need a darkened room and a lie down.  I just hope my dreams aren't haunted by Michael Green, Sebastian Fox and Corinne Stockheath. 


A Respectable pair

(R8/Q3)


James is disappointed...

Low scoring game; into the last question with KFD one behind.  A theme which had been got; a question with only 20 or so possible answers - and no time limit.  So 5 minutes later, and 3 minutes after being prompted to give an answer, KFD got the two points for a win.  Disappointing - a draw would have been a fair result.


The Bard of Rusholme

(R5/Q8)


History Men lost to Opsimaths

A welcome victory and a superior goal difference moves the Opsis up to 4th

Mike reports on a match that swooped from Larkin to Larks

There were really two full-on matches here tonight: the Opsis against Ivor and his mutinous bunch (let's call them the 'History Women and their plus ones') which vied for prominence with the other epic tussle between Mike H and the Pigs' paper.

The lead swung hither and thither all evening but eventually at a little past 11pm Polymath Nick swung into action with Kendall Jenner to put paid to the Historiettes whilst Mike H conquered his last Spare of the evening to see off the Pigs.

It was actually a really good fun evening made much more enjoyable by the friendship and sporting attitude of the two teams; for instance Anne blurting "Bering" instead of "Barents" (R4Q5).  Despite being marked correct by the QM the Opsis picked up on this and Anne immediately and honourably admitted her faux pas and we prepared for a spare.  The QM however had other ideas and insisted that he had heard "Barents".  "No, I said Bering - I was wrong" replied Anne.  "No you didn't" said Mike.

Dr Ivor had a patchy evening with the assembled patients bleeding to death whilst he took an age to identify the aorta (R5Q6) and then on another question barking at his team to "Shut up! I'm not conferring yet" to which they replied in one voice "It's not your bloody question!".

Mike H's finest hour - we all agreed - came when he managed to render Benjamin Zephaniah's Black Country verse in a broad Pam Ayres accent misleading both teams magnificently.

"What larks, Pip!" as Joe Gargery once memorably said.

And to poke a metaphorical finger in Mr Larkin's eye: the concrete and tyres will not completely take over whilst pub quizzes of this sort are still around.


The late slashing jerky twanger

(R1/Q4)


Dismayed by the quiz result Ivor resorts to family history...

Had I been speaking to Lady Susan Hussey today I would have told her St Andrew’s Day is traditionally one of the happier days for this Ulsterman given my descent from the Armstrong and Elliott clans both of whom were rather troublesome Scottish Lowland reavers who caused havoc for Mary, Queen of Scots.  Any aggressive traits have since been leavened by the Cartmill Cumbrian genes though sadly knowledge of things Cumbrian have been lost after centuries of plantation in Ulster which might help explain a poor performance tonight.  St Andrew’s Day at Edinburgh University always had ceilidhs and the Gay Gordons.  Strip the Willow and Eightsome Reels are fondly remembered. I also recalled in Round 8 that the Arts Faculty was named after the Enlightenment philosopher David Hume (until this year that is when he has become a victim of historical cancel culture) - but this was in vain as this was not the Scottish philosopher required for the answer.  

Tonight the only reeling to be had was that that followed the squandering of a five point lead after two rounds, to a five point deficit at the end.  The quiz was long and of some difficulty though there were only 8 unanswereds (breaking 4-4).  There were 14 steals (breaking 7-7) and a notable dearth of twos: we had 4 and the Opsimaths had 9.  This was largely due to either everyone sitting in the wrong seat (for which we cannot blame the setters), or timidity in 'going for the two'.  By the time the quiz ended we had missed last orders.

Mike H was in the QM chair and did his best at hurrying us along but the questions themselves were often long and (like Grade 5 piano pieces) with phrasing that was crucial for understanding so that  repetition was needed.  By the way Anne disagrees with me there - she says I always ask for repeats whatever.  It didn't help that Mike had his wrong reading glasses (for which we also cannot blame the setters) 

As is usual in our games there was much discussion DURING the quiz on many topics and such discussion was ROBUST.  This included:

a) Is it a blurt if one actually blurts the correct answer?

b) Are Black Eyed Peas really a rap collective? (no, me neither), and

c) Is over-specialisation a handicap in a quiz?  For instance if the left ventricle is not specified is pulmonary artery a possible answer?

Possible answers to these conundrums:

a) a correct blurt is never a blurt, it is merely excellent and automatic recall allied to a rapid delivery demonstrating the prowess of the quizzer,

b) As Hywel said (having picked up the steal) "I only knew two bands starting with Black and it was not going to be Black Sabbath”, and

c) Specialisation is a handicap.  Our late members Peter and Tim were bird watchers of some Twitcher magnitude but I cannot ever remember them getting a 'bird' question correct in any of our league games.


Notts' Drunk & Sobers

(R5/Q7)


Charabancs lost to Bards

Charas still looking for that elusive win

Damian hopes for better things in the New Year

So, after last week's WIST heroics, the Charas were soon brought back down to Earth when faced with our last WithQuiz opponents of the first half of the season.

Fortunately it was not a humiliating experience as we went toe-to-toe with the Bards for almost the entire quiz and were actually leading in four of the rounds.  Until we got to the last round, when the Bards forged ahead, there were never more than two points between us.  What let us down is what so often happens with us: we hit upon a zero point round and that scuppered our chances for the evening when the scoreline was so close.

Given that the subjects are often so familiar to us (in this case the Run-Ons and the Literature rounds) it is particularly frustrating to come away scoring only one point at best in these rounds.  Our opponents never seem to experience the same problem and as a result we are finishing the first half of the season with no wins at all against any of our WithQuiz opponents.  I fear this is a grim record for us to ponder as we look ahead to the Season Part Two.  


Quiz paper set by...

...The Electric Pigs

Average Aggregate score 69.8


A gentle return to more traditional scores after the 'points binges' we've had of late; plenty of erudition too (indeed some of our correspondents felt a little too much extra erudition had clouded some of the questions).  For me a paper featuring Larkin, David Copperfield, and Benjamin Zepheniah couldn't have much wrong with it.

To my shame I was undone by Larkin.  That question (R7Q2) came to me and my team mates couldn't help.  Was it Going, Going, Gone or Gone, Gone, Gone or Going, Gone?  In the end I went for Gone, Gone, Gone and the correct answer was Going, Going.  Larkin was such a miserable old git, and yet, and yet... He had the knack of putting his finger bang on the nerve for my generation.  The generation stuck between country churchyards and one-nation Tories on one hand and Kendall Jenner and all that he/she has brought on the other.  Ah, well!


Oldest and youngest Centurions

(R3/Q7&8)


...but what views did Damian have?...

Tonight's questions were set by the Electric Pigs and I think it is fair to say that both teams came away with the impression that this was the wordiest Quiz of the season so far.  QM Jane was quite out of breath with all the reading she had to do and the teams frequently lost the thread of what particular answer was being sought.  We were misled on more than one occasion into giving a right answer but not the one that was actually required.  On other occasions the answer became obvious to us before even half the question had been read out.  Nevertheless we felt the range of subject matter was extensive and well researched and varied enough to sustain our interest throughout.  Just maybe cut back on some of the superfluous information?


Gone!

(R7/Q2)


...and Mike O'B's take...

The quiz depended a lot on paired rounds with the emphasis on knowing or not knowing the answer, so there was less scope for conferring or working things out.  On the whole it would seem that it was better to go first, which we did not do having lost the toss.


...and Kieran's verdict?

...a very tough, but also very decent, Pigs paper.


...and Anne-Marie's QMing experience...

That was a tough quiz for the QM (me in this case).  Tough, not only to read (a bit of spacing between questions and answers, and some punctuation would have helped) - but also tough to follow with the content occasionally overly long.  


Retailing it like it is

(R8/Q5)


...and finally Ivor passes judgement...

Content of quiz I thought acceptable.  Had we known the answers we would have won by a landslide.  I note that all the matches had relatively low scores.  Sometimes it just happens.  We did have the occasional stroke of luck however.  The airman downed in Iraq in 1991 had the same surname as Our Vanessa so she has never forgotten that fact.  Shame there were no Black Eyed Bevans or Webley Cabinet Ministers to help with other answers.


The other love that dared not speak it's name

(R1/Q1&2)


Question of the Week

In the excellent Hidden Theme Round (Round 8) Question 5 fell to Howell and after some time he clocked the link between the theme and the answer and slam-dunked two vital points.  For him this was the question of the week...

This English retail consultant and broadcaster began her career as a Saturday girl in John Lewis.  She then worked for Harrod’s and Topshop before being appointed Creative Director of Harvey Nichols.  By the age of 30 she was on the Harvey Nichols board.  In 2011 she was appointed by then PM, David Cameron, to lead an independent review into Britain’s high streets.  Who is she?  (forename and surname required)

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


...and also

If you glance at the Fixtures page you will note that, following last week's WIST Cup results, Mike Wagstaffe and myself have drawn the ties for the next round of these Cup competitions (to be played in February).


Gary's two Coventry Lions

(R7/Q5)


     Opsimaths' absentee skipper celebrates last week's Lowly Grail Cup triumph