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7th December 2022

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Prods win at the Griffin to leapfrog KFD and go top at the halfway stage;

Ethel, History Men & Pigs all win and move up the table

KFD lost to Prodigals

Ethel Rodin beat Bards

History Men beat Albert

Opsimaths lost to Electric Pigs

KFD lost to Prodigals

Prods defeat the league leaders in an epic tussle at the Griffin

Kieran has a confession to make...

Bugger!  That was going to be the entirety of this report but tonight deserves a bit more than that.  

We've now lost eight on the bounce to the Prodigals, five of them on Charas' papers.  If I was a conspiracy theorist I'd be plotting the storming of the Bundestag but instead I chose quizzing to get my kicks.  Bloody hell!   

Two top teams playing at the very edge of their abilities, sometimes at the edge of reason.  Ludicrous long shot punts earned vital points: the 'Palais de Luxembourg' offered up on no more firm information than (like 'Oxygen') it had an 'X' in it; 'Ignorance and Want' dredged from God knows where after a particularly poor Bingo pick.  Hmmm Bingo... no we'll get to that.  On the other side of the quiz coin toss both 'Batman' and 'See How They Run DMC' were ignored even after being written down in front of us - and both snaffled by the Prodigals for priceless bonuses; and then a total Horlicks from the KFD brains trust regarding Edward the First's dates.   


Ewan's 'Local Hero' Uncle

(R2/Q7)


We led all night right up to Question 3 of the final round - and again after Question 4, and then Bingo... no not yet.  A match filled with such rancour that we unquestioningly allowed the Prodigals a Spare after they'd been misled by the wrong date for Stand By Me.  Of course they got a two for the replacement question.  They thought we were hard done to with the 'Standing Stones' question but Harris and Lewis are discrete islands and I couldn't argue a case for points or a spare for that (ED: No they're not discrete islands - the Isle of Lewis and the Isle of Harris are separate areas within a single island mass called Lewis and Harris - see my comments against the Quiz Paper).  There was endless bum-numbing conferring from both sides such that we didn't finish until the ungodly hour of 10.25, exactly the same time as last week's shocking KFD display of shithousery at the quondam Stadium.  

A month ago we held a seemingly unassailable lead against the Opsimaths going into the final round.  The Historymen had set a bingo test to complete the quiz.  We squeaked home by a single point.  We just can't do f***ing bingo rounds.  That's how to beat us, even more than setting Dickens questions on which, as mentioned above, we scored what we thought was a vital point at the death.

And so to tonight's Bingo round... a two point lead for us had become a two point lead for the Prodigals with only my question left and three options to pick from.  Last week I was a hero, to my team mates at least, when, after thinking time which apparently lasted longer than Jarndyce v Jarndyce, I nailed Grant Shapps (ugh!) and we won by a point.  Karma's a bitch as they say.  Tonight I became zero as I honed in on the one of the three I didn't know.  The chance of the tie and a two point lead in the league at the halfway stage vanished and with admirable ruthlessness the Prodigals picked up the bonus for a slightly flattering 3-point win.  When you've got your foot on your opponent's neck push down harder and all that.  

When we got to the spares I asked if I could have first go at the two so far unused Bingo questions.  You see I was baptised a Catholic and that's the sort of torture we just have to put ourselves through.  'By St Agnes' Fountain' and 'A Festival of Nine Lessons and Carols' scarcely required a moment's thought but I was nowhere near 'A Visit From St Nicholas'.  Prodigal Michael, whom I'm sure bats for a very different Christian sect - or more likely none, just like me - helpfully reminded me that had I been born to Presbyterians I would have known that I was always destined to make the wrong choice and that we were fated to lose the quiz before the first question had been asked.  Calvin had this stuff down centuries ago.  But I was taught that I have a free will and that if I exercise it wrongly I will sin against my creator.  It makes the guilt so much deeper and so much sweeter.  That's a pleasure(?) and a poignancy that the Presbyterians and all the rest will never know.  

Forgive me Father for I have bollocksed it up right at the death.  

Quizzing, bloody hell.


Michael chips in from the winners' bench...

A veritable four-pointer at the Griffin: win, and we take the lead on points difference; lose, and KFD disappear into the distance.  What we needed, therefore, was a quick start.  Well, we lost the first round 6-0, which might be the first time this iteration of the Prodigals has gone pointless over a whole round.  We fought back to trail 19-16 at the break and then had the best of the bingo to sneak home,  Jimmy having quickly pointed to 'K' and stating with sublime prescience,  "It will be that nasty German f**ker Krampus".  It was a genuinely tense contest but played in a convivial spirit throughout. 


No Puffin

(R6/Q4)


Ethel Rodin beat Bards

Ethel get the rub of the green to halt their worrying slide

James worries about Time...

Well, after several weeks of being closely done over by a lack of knowledge, dodgy question pairings and a lack of league governance re timing, this week Ethel were lucky recipients of a 'steal win' thanks to a couple of blurt-near-misses: 'Tax' over 'Taxi' and 'Clancy' over 'Clarence'.

'Ethel 40-38 Bards' was probably just about right on the night; Bards never ahead, with Ethel’s lead wavering between 5, 0 and the eventual 2 points.

We almost threw it away on the Blockbuster Bingo round but held it together to maintain our mid-table mediocrity.

Following on from last week’s loss in the shape of an uncomfortable last-question 5-minute tie-clincher, after the quiz we discussed whether the league needs to set time limits for answering.  Other leagues do this, despite WithQuiz always managing without it.  It would be best to have a gentleman’s and lady’s agreement on this rather than impose a ‘constitutional’ change, but 2 minutes feels like more than long enough first up, with one minute once conferred by either team.  Thoughts….?


En route to grave-mouldering:

Hanged for treason

(R1/Q7)


The 'effervescently discordant' Ms Styrene with her Spex

(R6/Q7)


History Men beat Albert

A comfortable win for the History Men who move up to 5th

Ivor warms his cockles...

With the continuing fuel crisis and the onset of cold weather how will we pensioners survive?  One solution is to sit in the pub!  Anyway, that is my excuse on Wednesday evenings and quiz night is an easier option than running around a squash court like Mrs C.  I suspect if one was to sit in the pub all day with a half pint one might be invited to warm one’s bones at someone else's expense, but it is a possible stratagem should the Beast from the East make its appearance.  I wonder if Councillor Simcock can prevail on Mr Burnham to sanction emergency all-day and all-night openings for communal places of liquid refreshment?  It might be a vote winner. 

Tonight we were in the Parrswood and very comfortable it was too.  Comfortable too was our victory, though as usual we saw a 13 point lead at the end of Round 6 get whittled down to 8 points by the end of Round 8.  A high scoring quiz and just the kind of questions the Historymen like.

We went first and got 13 twos to Albert’s 9, with only 6 questions going unanswered, though Albert got 4 of those.  As is often the case the impostors of triumph and disaster were very evident.  Jeremy thought long and hard in the 'X' connection round, and obviously had his lawyer hat on, as he  interpreted a 'means of conveyance' and blurted “telex”.


John Major's bum-stiffener for the Scots

(R1/Q3)


It was good to see Albert's Paddle of Rebuke make an appearance.  Mike also had a Racket of Praise with him (but this was not needed), as well as the Lucky Rat mascot (tonight it was as lucky as a rodent in 1348 Avignon).  Eveline managed to zig instead of zag with the only other punk band with a female singer and an 'X' in their name when she answered "Siouxsie and the Banshees”.  There were some well deserved steals as well: Ashton got his reward as an English teacher for 13 years by answering the Dickens question and Vanessa’s month-long Christmas frenzy with her primary school class made the 'Governor of Syria' answer a shoo-in. 

Thanks to Damian who was in the QM chair tonight and showed the ropes to our new team member, Ben, who will make more appearances next year. 


Giving what Thatcher snatched

(R3/Q5)


Mike's Paddle of Rebuke makes its return...

Unfortunately, our ignorance allied to losing the toss cost us dearly.  This was compounded by a distressing outbreak of indiscipline resulting in the use of the Paddle of Rebuke for the first time this season.  Moreover, the Paddle had to be deployed twice in one round.  Essentially, we lost the match in Round 1 which we lost 9 points to one and, although at times we closed the gap to a couple of points, we could never sustain the effort.


Senate Maison

(R6/Q2)


Opsimaths lost to Electric Pigs

A close run thing ends with the Pigs in front

Mike sums up from the QM perch at the Club...

I was QMing this week as visitors Guy, Andrew, Tom and Dave fought a close run battle against Nick, Hilary, Brian and James.  James, I hear you say?  Yes, it was Compulsory Mantis Shrimp James Haughton making a very welcome guest appearance for the Opsimaths.  Since the Shrimps have been knocked out of their Wednesday evening online quiz competition their players had a free Wednesday.

Both teams were on 6 league points in the middle of the table going into this match but the Pigs emerged on top and move up the table whilst the Opsis drift downwards.  Intriguingly, however, the Opsis have a plus aggregate score difference of 10 whereas the Pigs have a negative score difference of 48!  When the Pigs lose they really go for it!

It was fairly close throughout but the Opsis fell foul of the 'Tax' v 'Taxi' answer (I see the Bards v Ethel match had a similar mishap) and, as in the KFD/Prods match, the Opsis were misled by the date error in the Stand By Me question.  In our case James took it on the chin and did not ask for a spare.

After the match (which finished pretty late) Brian sought 'Councillor surgery' time with Cllr Andrew.  Brian has a friend with a bucket list and apparently it includes viewing a fatberg.  Brian wondered whether Andrew from his lofty position in the Council chamber might be able to help.  Surprisingly in his long period of civic service this is the first time Andrew has had such a request.  He's going to do his best.

Well done Pigs!  We'll be after you for revenge in the New Year.


City's left-handed Lamborghini driver

(R3/Q7)


Quiz paper set by...

...The Charabancs

Average Aggregate score 78.8


The Charas hit the WithQuiz mood perfectly as they dished up a paper that scored exactly the same average aggregate score as the average of the previous 8 papers so far this season.

Loads of interesting facts too - if a little on the wordy side with quite a few bits of information not entirely necessary for the question.  There were two excellent Hidden theme rounds in which the themes were geared to offer just the right amount of help to those who sussed the links.

If I was to be picky I wonder whether the 'Run Ons' format is beginning to lose its sheen.  The overlapping text is often now down to a few paltry letters with little amusement gained by linking the two separate answers.  The 'Run Ons' in this paper seemed to me a little too contrived and not a lot of fun.


Frog-eyed

(R2/Q6)


A slight glitch on dates in Round 5 Question 7: it seems Stand By Me was an adventure drama of 1986 NOT 1996.  This misled James in the Opsis match and I believe caused problems at the Griffin where they took a spare to compensate.  Also in Round 7 Question 8 'The Isle of Lewis' is not a separate island - it is one part of the largest single island of the Outer Hebrides called 'Lewis and Harris'.  I think either 'Lewis and Harris' or 'The Isle of Lewis' would have been acceptable answers here.

And finally, as a QM this week, I commend the Charas for making the text of questions and answers very easy for the QM to navigate.

So well done, Damian and crew, for a fine paper to close the first half of the season.  Your mission now is to win the next 8 matches and finish in the top half of the table.


Mr Spilsbury's Dissected Map

(R3/Q1)


...but what were Mike O'B's views?...

A very entertaining quiz.  In particular we liked the construction of the 'Pitt The Younger - Three Bottle Man' Question.


...and Ethel's James was enthusiastic too...

Good set of questions on the whole with plenty of interest and enlightenment.  We wondered why the Mayor of Batman had waited quite so long to complain to DC.

Shout-out for the Hidden theme round of Chancellors; with the possibility that it was in fact Home Secretaries remaining alive well into the set.  Also the confusion, or genius, deliberate, or by default, of The Darling Buds of May didn’t help resolve that - but we were wise to it.


The Scots remember Braveheart

(R7/Q7)


...and Michael adds the Prods view...

It's easy to praise a quiz when you win a tight match but this was interesting and well-balanced.  Despite some inaccuracies (Stand By Me) and ambiguities (oxygen or phlogiston?), there was a lot of good, testing material.


..and finally Ivor's verdict...

The Charas produced a most enjoyable quiz paper (a win always makes it more so).  The Christmas Round was just right for the end of the last quiz evening before the break.  It is always fun trying to predict the Blockbuster answers - and then finding oneself wrong-footed.  Luckily Anne had the knowledge to see beyond the cosiness of Kristingle to the darker prehistoric Nordic unease of the Krampus.


Standing up for Lewis

(R7/Q8)


Question of the Week

This week Mike O'Brien rather fancied the contents of Round 3 Question 6...

In reference to his heavy consumption of port wine, which long-serving but short-lived British Prime Minister was known as the 'three-bottle man'?  He was the first to serve as  Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


Watch out kids!

There's a Krampus about!

(R8/Q4)


...and also

We end the year with WithQuiz very much alive and kicking as The Prods power their way to the top of the tree supplanting our evergreen league leaders from the Griffin.  All set fair for a grand tussle in 2023.

We're off now until January 11th when we'll resume hostilities with batteries recharged.

Happy Christmas to all - and many thanks to all, but especially to the diligent correspondents who keep this page alive week in and week out.


A new day dawns on the Moon

(R8/Q10)