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15th February 2023

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Shock! Horror!  The Prods lose while KFD win and go top;

Albert keep up the chase in third; the Opsis win to go fifth

Prodigals lost to History Men

Bards lost to Opsimaths

Albert beat Electric Pigs

KFD beat Charabancs

Prodigals lost to History Men

Over the years the History Men have upset a few applecarts...

As Ivor reports women are just history...

Tonight was the first time for some time that the Historymen were indeed all men.  I realise that might be regarded as an inflammatory statement in this era of wokery especially on the day that marks the political expiry of Nicola Sturgeon - an expiry partly due to her strange definition of womanhood that includes double rapists with an intact membrum virile (I revert to Latin anatomical descriptions in case the word 'penis' frightens the horses).

However we were definitely missing Anne and Vanessa who by all definitions are ladies not laddies.  Even Keir Starmer might recognise them as women.  Anne was topping up her vitamin D levels in Ibiza.  How times change; in the past folk of Derbyshire mining stock just ate more margarine in the winter.  Vanessa was on half term and hopefully resting from the daily grind of educating 30 under-tens.  Ray and Rupert were very worthy stand-ins: extra knowledge, no blurting and focussed to the end (neither of them drink vodka).  We even managed to win the last three rounds to gain an unexpected victory and do the double over our worthy opponents, probably for the first time ever.  It should make the race for the title very exciting with the 1/3/23 Prodigals-KFD match the key battle. 

Anne-Marie was in the QM seat and she will probably have something to say about proof-reading and the lack of the Oxford comma.  Anything less than 12 point type might also have challenged some readers.  The quiz itself was pretty difficulty as our combined score of 69 proved.  Only 16 twos (8-8) and 11 unanswereds (6-5).  Our win was due to us getting 4 steals to the Prodigals 3.  Despite Anne-Marie chivvying us along it was a long evening and when the test starts to feel like an exam that one is unprepared for, it can diminish the enjoyment even when one is winning. 

However as I sit here having to prepare and edit next week’s quiz paper feast from some very thin gruel, there were some highlights.  We cracked the three consecutive letters by question four which got us 'Tuvalu', but I'm afraid 'dabchick' defeated us all.  The 'Punny Old World' made a welcome return and raised our spirits.  Hats off to the setter (who presumably set the first 'Punny' round last November) and we look forward to future attempts as balancing a suitably difficult question with a suitably cryptic and amusing pun takes some skill.


St Trinian's racketeer

(R4/Q8)


Michael comments on a long and disappointing evening...

For us this was an exercise in abject horror.  After two rounds, we were drawing 7-7.  The drinks break didn’t come until 10 o’clock, and we didn’t finish until ten to eleven. 

Fair play to the History Men, who knew slightly more of the answers than we did, and were convivial company as ever, but I'm afraid we really didn't enjoy this one.


Grebelet

(R1/Q5)


Bards lost to Opsimaths

The league's yo-yo team have a rising week

Deputising for absent skipper Howell, Mike celebrates...

A very close game between two teams that are well-matched stretched a long evening to nigh on closing time.  The Opsimaths led early doors - but it looked as if the Bards might nick it at the end but for the last pair of film questions which clinched it for the visitors.

Bards Tony, Jim, Robin and John were on good form as were Nick, Brian, Hilary and myself tackling a paper that probably suited the older demographic (as elderly citizens are portentously dubbed these days).  Music questions were largely of a classical bent (thanks, Roddy and James) and knowledge of political geography was at a premium for those wanting to succeed on this week's paper.  My own experience of late (via University Challenge contestants for one) is that those under  (say) 30 simply don't know where places are.  SatNav is to blame I guess.  But I've ranted about this too often - I'll move on.

Best moment for me was watching Brian shift uneasily in his seat as he tackled the 'punny' question referring to genital discomfort.  He got the right piece of equipment but only managed to 'roach' it rather than 'chafe' it.  The Bards were cock-a-hoop of course.

Many thanks to James who helped out by QMing and (as is his wont) adding some interesting titbits of knowledge along the way.  Finally my apologies to John and Robin whose names I keep getting confused.  Both of them plug important areas of knowledge for a formidable Bards line up.  The Opsimaths were flattered to come out on top.


Spanish racketeer

(R2/Q6)


Jazz blower par excellence

(R4/Q5)


Albert beat Electric Pigs

Albert retain third place after a close run victory

Mike O'B sums up a hurried affair...

The aggregate score reveals what type of quiz this was. Ashton was away so we wanted to make him proud of us.  We did this by scoring zero points in the first round.  After this it was a bit of a roller-coaster; high-scoring rounds interspersed with some very low-scoring ones.  Many of the questions were interesting but, for us, required such a high degree of expert knowledge that there was little scope for conferring. 

The frantic pace of the quiz was aided by the fact that when we gathered for the usual 8.30pm start we learnt that The Didsbury had decided to shut at 10.00pm on weekdays because business is so poor at present.  How long they intend to do this is not known.  It did result in the the teams cramming 8 rounds into about 80 minutes.


Faith in the Flag

(R1/Q1)


KFD beat Charabancs

The title race gets ever more interesting as City KFD go top

Big Blue Kieran explains...

Well that was some evening, in Heaton Mersey, in West Didsbury and especially in N5, which seemed to have been transported to just the other side of the bar in the Griffin judging by the noise pouring into the screen-free middle room.  City's second and third goals caused Bob's voice to be drowned out as he tried to ask questions of the Charas' regular guest artist, Gerry.  Sensing Gerry was a lucky mascot for City, the blue half of KFD lobbied for the former Chara skipper to field all the questions as we sat back and enjoyed the carnage at the Emirates. Unfortunately Bob was in no mood to play ball, rather like Arsenal's defence.  


St Bartholomew's first to be dispatched

(R3/Q3)


Martin is suffering from a mild case of shingles so we parked him well away from everyone else and Damian hung a bell round his neck just to make sure he felt completely bullied.  We conferred via semaphore.  Actually our conferring was very successful tonight, a beautiful team goal for bariatrics being the highlight.  After the game we came to the conclusion that, in close matches, we confer much more these days  than we used to decades ago when we knew no fear and just went for two after two.  We're just not sure whether the narrow margins of victory (or defeat) are the cause or the effect.   

David's unique mind worked out the awful Anna Lizst business, but had any of us known the Ed Sheeran rubbish we wouldn't have owned up for fear of a long banishment to the bench of execrable taste - and I finally got some payback for the trauma of being made to study Jane Austen at 'A' Level.  Barry?  Well there was quite a lot of geography and natural history so he just did his Barry thing.  His alter ego is currently smashing Southee and Tickner all over the North Island which, in the circumstances, is in questionable taste.   

Home to watch the highlights of the City game and digest the unexpected news that the Prodigals had again fallen to their nemesis the Historymen.  Hmmm, well there are so many games to go, so many points to play for (with acknowledgment to Pep) but it's starting to get interesting.... everywhere.


Hitchcock's Birds Bird

(R3/Q7)


Quiz paper set by...

...Ethel Rodin

Average Aggregate score 63.0


The scores were well down this week and, as is often the case with low-scoring papers, game times stretched right up to 11pm.  In the Parrswood there were plenty of lengthy conferences to navigate as we did mental gymnastics on maps of the world, and then set our vertically inclined brains hunting laterally for crossword puzzle-like wordplays to satisfy ourselves that we'd got the right answers in the 'funny-punny' round.  In our match there were 14 unanswered questions but by the end of the evening it turned out they had split evenly between the two teams despite what seemed a few glaring imbalances along the way.


Shrinking Violet

(R6/Q4)


As with most Ethel papers music questions were focused primarily on the orchestra rather the pop combo (to use a legal term, milord), and symphonies rather than pop anthems.  Geography and classical music tend to be 'up my street' so I thoroughly enjoyed the challenges Ethel set though I'm aware others have different requirements for a good evening quizzing.

One bit of a cavil on which to end... There were a few questions where the answer, when given, caused some debate - most notably the world golf number one (as Michael mentions below).  Maybe this was just an accident of timing and McIlroy had been number one when the question was set.  On the other hand to counter this 'out-of-dateness' how prescient of Ethel in Round 1 to refer to 'wee Nicola' on the very day she shocked us all and announced her intention to stand down!


Not another geography question!

(R8/Sp3)


...Michael's views were a little less charitable...

There were too many badly-worded, ambiguous, or simply wrong questions to cope with this week.  Rory McIlroy is not world number one; it was technically Louis XIII who founded the Academie Francaise; Lisbon was known as Olisipo under the Romans. 

Moreover, there were too many imbalances in the pairings.  Norway and Sweden share an obviously long border; is the border shared by Gibraltar and Spain equivalently well known?  Harry Potter’s owl versus the cockchafer beetle?


Preston

More important than life or death!

(R4/Q4)


...and Kieran's feedback...

Another pretty tough paper from Ethel and the lowest average aggregate of the season by some margin.  In our match almost as many unanswereds (10) as twos (11) - but three very close finishes in the evening so the setters did their job well.  


On its way to have a chafe at Brian

(R6/Q2)


Question of the Week

Following their 'beautiful' conference KFD vote for Round 6 (entitled 'It's a Punny Old World') Question 7 ...

The straight way into the answer...

Which branch of medicine deals with the causes, prevention, and treatment of obesity?

...and the punny way into the answer...

These feats eluded the footballer with the highest number of appearances in the Premier League.

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


Never seen one of your type before!

What's the world coming to?

(R5/Q5)