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19th April 2023

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The Opsimaths and The Bards win through to contest next week's Val Draper final leaving Albert and The Charas to slug it out in the Plate final

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Next week's Finals paper is to be set by 'Knocked Out United' so if your team is one of the 'KOU' setters please submit your questions to me (Mike Bath) by this coming Sunday.

See '...and also' below for more details

Val Draper Cup - Semi Finals

Bards beat History Men
Prodigals lost to Opsimaths
 

WithQuiz Plate - Semi Finals

Electric Pigs lost to Albert
Charabancs beat Ethel Rodin

Val Draper Cup - Semi Finals

Bards (0) beat (0) History Men

The Bards sail through to the Val Draper final

Ivor is not too happy about Anchorage...

Our semi-final saw the meeting of the defending Cup winners, the Bards, and the three-times Cup winners, the Historymen.  This is our fourth meeting this year: the Bards won both the league games and the Historymen won the Lowly Grail semi final.  The Bards had a team so strong that Tony relegated himself to the bench (rather than the Bench).  We found ourselves missing Anne (holidays) and reserve Rupert (grandbaby sitting).  So, with Mike H in the QM seat, Mrs C was co-opted to seat 1, fearful that once again Lady Luck would be fickle with her favours.

Both teams had a Cup handicap of 0 and both were eager for the fight.  The Historymen started very well and at half time were a point ahead (17-16).  Then what was already a difficult quiz became more so for us.  Of our eight questions in Rounds 5 and 6 we had six unanswereds and conceded two steals.  That rather sucked the life out of our game (indeed some were losing the will to live) but we battled on.  

Not a good toss to win and go first.  The very first question was controversial as the USA has a lot of cities.  Admittedly many are no bigger than a hole in a hedge by the side of an Arkansas road with three residents, a dog, and 15 guns, but our answer of Pomona, in California, has 151,713 people, a state university and is every bit as eminent as Anchorage!


QM Mike adds...

Enjoyed QMing again after many weeks missed, but what a long, hard-going quiz.  Surprisingly though, amidst so much obscurity, conferring and repeats, there were quite a few answers that I would have got easily.  Nevertheless the quiz went on far too long and finished well after 11!!


Never practised what they preach

(R6/Q2)


Prodigals (-4) lost to (-1) Opsimaths

Opsimaths come from behind to claim a place in the Val Draper final

Mike watched it all even if he didn't hear it all...

Somewhat odd match at the Club where just 53 points were amassed in a lengthy evening which suffered profoundly at the start from an unholy racket in the main lounge where legions of 'Chorlton Wheelies' (as Anne-Marie dubbed the local cycling club devotees) pranced around in orange lycra trying to outshout the City fans watching the inevitable happen in Munich.  I was probably the most discombobulated by the noise and had pretty much given up on the quiz when Richard took matters into his own hands and led us to the Snooker Room where the noise was less intrusive.  The Orange Army racket died down shortly thereafter as the alcohol took its toll.  If anyone saw a mangled heap of metal tinged with flashes of orange spreadeagled over Lapwing Lane late last night, well you now know why.  Throughout this pandemonic first part to the evening QM Stella was a model of patience repeating ad nauseam (especially for me).  Thanks, Stella.  I'm pretty sure our extra low aggregate score owed something to the trying environment as we struggled to hear and concentrate.


A lovely Thought for the Day

(R3/Q7)


Despite all this the Opsimaths (Howell, Emma, Brian and me) chalked up an historic victory over the Prodigals (Anne-Marie, Jimmy, Richard and John) after trailing our foes for the first 6 rounds.  As a result we are into the Val Draper final next week and just one step away from a WithQuiz prize we've never ever claimed.

Even though we finished well past 10.30 there was still time to chat and  enjoy some laughs with each other.  Richard shared some stuff about University Challenge where, alongside Clare (former Opsimath), and Tom (current Shrimp), he has just completed the recordings of the series after the one currently showing on BBC2.  And whilst on the subject of the media and quizzes try tuning in to Round Britain Quiz next Monday on Radio4 where Northern Ireland (including ex-Opsimath, Paddy Duffy) take on Wales.


Lads from Leytonstone

& FA Cup winners

(R2/Q2)


Dust Bowl folk hero

(R2/Q1)


WithQuiz Plate - Semi Finals

Electric Pigs (+4) lost to (+1) Albert

Albert get through to the Plate final for the second year running

Ashton steps into the breach for virus-hit Captain MOBO...

A late email from our virus-hit captain meant a mad scramble to find a fourth player last night.  It wasn't the greatest introduction to WithQuizzing for our stand-in Ian.


His party could well have inspired Boris

(R4-5/Fillmore)


The painfully low aggregate reflects how much of the evening felt like swimming through treacle.  That said, without our guest's impeccable knowledge of Roman emperors and the 'Know Nothing Movement', we would certainly have lost and possibly with an all-time record low score.  Sympathy for the Pigs, whose answer of 'British Secular Society' was deemed inadequate by stickler QM Barry, giving us an easy steal and in the end making the difference between winning and losing.


"Ask not what your country..."

Kennedy's wordsmith

(R4-5/Kennedy)


Charabancs (+5) beat (-2) Ethel Rodin

Charas add a bit of Final glitter to their disappointing league season

Damian rejoices...

Well, courtesy of our opponents' hefty handicap, we managed to make our first Final since goodness knows when, just when we assumed our season was well and truly done and dusted.  We managed to lead in every round up until Round 7 when our gallant opponents finally managed to draw level with us - kudos to them for overcoming the handicap to give themselves a chance of winning.  Both teams finished level on points and used the first two spares from R1 as tie-breakers with us answering ours correctly thanks to John's knowledge of Cumbrian mountains.


Teddy watches Abe depart

(R4-5/Theodore Roosevelt)


A late finish made for a cheap round for us as our opponents could only manage three swift halves before they had to depart. Is that the secret of only having to buy a cheap round for the losing team: string things out for as long as possible so that when you finally win no-one has much time to drink and chat afterwards?

So on to what has become an unfamiliar experience for us - that is playing in a final.  With many of my lot about to depart on various excursions here and there I just hope I can manage to scrape a team together to do the occasion justice!


Iron moulder, Nobel Peace Prize winner and three times Labour leader

(R1/Q4)


Quiz paper set by...

...KFD

Average Aggregate score 60.0

A big dip in scoring levels but plenty of good ideas and fascinating facts on display.  My guess is the low-scoring was in part the result of asking for a little too much information (e.g. name two current Premiership managers who have never played professionally rather than just one).  Two rounds dedicated to facts about US Presidents was stretching it a little and in our match the points haul in these rounds was pretty thin.


The Three Virtuous biplanes that saved Malta

(R7/Q2)


...and this was Ashton's view...

One of the hardest papers I can remember in a very long time.  We thought we were struggling as we approached the end of proceedings at around 10.40, only for Tony to appear from the other side of the pub to announce that the Bards game was still only on Round 6.


...and Damian's...

We found tonight's paper from KFD a bit of a toughie.  Lots of varied and interesting stuff but sometimes quite hard with many unanswerables most of which seemed to fall to us.  The paired Rounds 1 and 6 produced the curious outcome of the team going first scoring nearly all the points so that in Round 1 we went first and scored 6 points to our opponents nil while in Round 6, the almost exact reverse happened with Ethel going first beating us 5-1.  Had Ethel scored just a single point in Round 1 or got the same score in Round 6 they would have ended up going through to next week's final!

I think the Pick-Your-American President pairs in Rounds 4 and 5 were our favourites.  However none of us managed to guess exactly which British prime minister said something or other about another; Ethel came closest with one of the questions but got them in the wrong order!  Luck did not seem to favour them tonight. 


...and finally Ivor's...

A difficult quiz. There were 17 unanswereds in our game (11 to us, including 5 to Mrs C in unlucky seat 1) and only 14 twos (8 to the Bards).  An MA in American History alongside an MA in 20th Century Political History might have been an advantage tonight.  We all failed to recognise that the provision of food might have saved lives and sadly Alf Landon, like many losers, has disappeared from quizzing memory.  The hidden theme round and the questions where you were asked to give one word covering three different clues were rather better received.


Question of the Week

This week the Charas rather liked the Round 6 Spare question with which Cumbrian mountaineer John clinched the tie-break and earned them a place in next week's Plate final...

What name links a mountain in the Lake District, a current English test cricketer and a brewery?

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


...and also

'Knocked Out United'

As is the custom for the Val Draper and Plate Cup finals which take place next Wednesday the paper is to be set by a combination of the 5 teams who have not reached the finals.

So History Men, Prodigals, Ethel Rodin, Electric Pigs and KFD could you please send one full round plus 3 pairs of paired questions to me (Mike Bath) by next Sunday 23rd April.  Although the Opsimaths are in the Val Draper final I will be skipping off to the Etihad to watch City v Arsenal next Wednesday so will miss the finals leaving me free to act as 'Knocked Out United' editor -in-chief.

In the usual way we will ask the 4 finalist teams to judge which of the 5 full rounds they regard as the best and the team submitting this round will pick up a prize at the End of Season evening.

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End of Season Evening (May 10th)

Albert have kindly offered to entertain us all with a 'friendly' quiz paper for the evening.

As usual we'll be doling out the gongs and so if you won a trophy last season please make sure the inscriptions are up-to-date and then let me have the trophy back before May 10th.  Manchester Trophy Market (287 Palatine Rd, Northenden, 0161 884 3359) are the people I usually use for trophy engraving.

Finally great news!  Catherine, Barry Whitehead's daughter, has agreed to join us at the event and present the trophies - including the League Shield renamed this season the 'Barry Whitehead League Shield' in honour of her Dad.