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Prods keep their 100% record intact and open up a 4 point gap between themselves and Albert and KFD; Albert become the season's tie specialists with their second all square result

History Men lost to Prodigals

Opsimaths lost to Ethel Rodin

Charabancs tied with Albert

Electric Pigs lost to Bards

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Opsimaths lost to Ethel Rodin

Ethel inflict another thumping defeat on the Opsis

Mike was on the bench to observe

Ethel are fast becoming our bogey team.  Although we quite often lose these days, when it's Ethel the losses seem to be particularly painful.  This week was no exception.  Neck to neck for most of the first half the home team rapidly slipped behind in the second half as Greg, Rob, James and Michael powered on to open up a 19 point gap.  The home side of Emma, Tehmeena, Charlotte and Howell just had no answer to this surge.

I felt sorry in particular for Tehmeena who seemed to get more than her fair share of questions that a relative newcomer to the UK could hardly be expected to know (e.g. counties with newly appointed cities).

I also sympathised with Charlotte who now lives in Ramsbottom  having recently moved away from Didsbury and has a 40 minute drive home on Wednesdays only to be up at 6am on Thursdays to get to her teaching job.  Having Brian and myself as spectators drinking and mumbling merrily just behind her right ear didn't help.  Sorry!


400 year old slowcoach

(R1/Q4)


James sees sees differently from KFD

For the second season in a row, ER ran away with a KFD-set quiz against the Opsimaths; one short of the half century this time.  I suspect this says more about KFD quizzes playing to our strengths than it does about the Opsis.  

Rob, in his second game for Ethel has now settled in brilliantly, and he delivered a number of superb answers last night.  It takes some courage (or perhaps naïveté) to be heard in a team of quite strong personalities… and we listened…!  Next week, as Michael will be playing cards in Vegas, Rob gets to meet Rod. 


Wilfrid's Abbey

(R2/Q4)


Ethel have lost 5 tosses in a row.  I think last night was probably a good toss to lose.  We fell into the trap in the colours/not colours themed round and, although the dates had not matched and Greg knowing it was wrong, we went for Earl Grey as the PM.  I suspect that trap was deliberate!  The African countries round was nicely done; next time we should expect Zimbabwe, Tanzania and Burkina Faso to appear as run-throughs or soundalikes.  Is Tuner’s Ear a medical condition?  Kenya do that KFD?  Rob knew the emancipation proclamation, and indeed, ‘deshitification’.  Apparently - and ironically - he follows the creator on social media.  

Others will have their say about the 'Gaelic Sports' questions.  Whether intentionally or not, the answer to the second one appeared to have already been given in the first.  Still, it had been an unanswered question and that made up for the fact it was a tougher question than naming Olympic Stadii.  

The Cathedral Cities question was flawed.  An internet search of this proves that, rather like religion itself, it is a question with many different interpretations, and several different wrong and right answers.  'Cathedra' is Latin for ‘Bishop’s seat’, so essentially the question is also about dioceses.  Some are no longer dioceses and others have consolidated, such that several ‘cathedrals’ are no longer real cathedrals.  As a native of Birmingham, I know from actual, not internet, life experience that St Chad’s is the Catholic Cathedral, and St Philip’s Cathedral Church (with Burne-Jones windows) is CoE.  I drew both as a child for a school project - it was a copy of an etching by someone my dad knew in the Royal Birmingham Society of Artists, and by 1982 most of the foreground had become the inner ring road (see pictures below).


 

St Chad’s Cathedral - actual and as drawn in 1982 by a 9 year old James!

(R8/Q7)


But some lists count both, some either, and some neither.  The same applies to several other towns and cities; Southwark has two cathedrals but isn’t a city or a town; Westminster has a cathedral and an abbey (collegiate church); Newcastle has two, but the catholic diocese is called Hexham and Newcastle… I could go on….


Electric Pigs lost to Bards

The Bards get the better of a fairly low-scoring match at the Fletcher Moss


After Tricky Dicky and Pearl's appearance last week another POTUS has asked that I include the above.

Can you spot who they are?


History Men lost to Prodigals

The Prods seem to be unstoppable as they ease past the Historymen

Ivor ventures into some gender reflections as Anne returns

Back to the Parrswood and another defeat.  The most important news from our game tonight was that we welcomed the return of Anne after illness.  As expected she was magnificent and had her team mates been better the game would have been closer. We should be glad that she was more forgiving of our peccadilloes (daft wrong answers) than we deserved.  We were ahead at the end of Round 2 but then I got a 'royal' question wrong when I zigged for the Duchy of Cornwall instead of zagging for the other - and decline set in thereafter.


Aubrey's journal

(R1/Q1)


The Prodigals were excellent company (as well as being excellent quizzers) and we take comfort from only losing by 10 points.  We do start every match determined to win and it is a measure of our fall when team instructions at the start of the last round were “try to get up to 30 points, or stop the Prodigals getting to 50”.  We were also missing Vanessa tonight.  Regular readers will know that Anne and Vanessa are our best players and surely our team name must now change to reflect this.  To which the reply is: "If Comrade Starmer says some women have a membrum virile (presumably not Lady Starmer) then some Historymen can have XX chromosomes."

Not the easiest of quizzes and there were 12 unanswereds which, at least, broke 6-6, though Prodigal John might feel a bit of a Jonah as he got four of them.  The Prodigals got 14 twos to our 8 which is a measure of their strength in depth and must make them a good bet for regaining the league championship.  

Despite the Parrswood noise (post funeral reception), QM Guy fairly rattled along and it was a quiz largely devoid of constipaters (excepting our fruitless attempt at calculating impossible three dart finishes in the very last question). 


Stacey'll sort you out

(R1/Q8)


Charabancs tied with Albert

Thrills galore at the Griffin as Albert steer their way to a second tied result

Tankman Mike proves his value

First the good news.  In writing this I am helping to create a new WithQuiz page which will remove that ghastly smug, satisfied, 'everything's going my way' photograph of Ashton which has been haunting me for the past week.


 

Blue Riband liner

(R4/Q5)


The bad news is that for the second week running we were forced to scrape a draw by scoring off the last question.  Once again I feel that we would have won but for me.  For a large part of the match the team was in the unusual situation where it would have been one point better off if it had played three-handed and I had not turned up.  While this would have added to my newly acquired legendary status it is not the way I would wish to proceed.  Fortunately, late on, a knowledge of Valentine tanks and the laws of cribbage provided a slight justification for my presence. 


Chara Gerry writes:

"A timely reminder that all that emanates from the US at the moment is not vile and ugly - as Ogden Nash once said:

'The manatee is harmless / And conspicuously charmless / Luckily the manatee / Is quite devoid of vanity.'"

(R7/Q3)


Quiz paper set by...

... KFD

Average Aggregate score 74.3


A tad below the season's overall average aggregate but close enough for this not to be a problem - so plenty of points on offer.

I guess the main observation at the Albert Club match was how the scoring and the pace of the evening declined noticeably in the second half.  There were quite a few questions of the 'Name a number of candidates fulfilling a certain condition' variety.  These always take a lot of time as the quizzer invariably confers and the team goes into a huddle whilst a list is drawn up and debated.  The 'Number of cities with both a Catholic and an Anglican cathedral' was one such and provoked even more debate after the answer had been given.  Surely, for instance, Bristol (Anglican cathedral) and Clifton (Catholic cathedral) are in the same city.  And what about Southwark in London with both a Catholic and an Anglican cathedral bearing the same name?


Daddy

(R3/Q8)


... and Ivor's verdict ...

The quiz itself?  Prodigal Jimmy felt it was “a bit of a curate’s egg” and Anne-Marie “it was a game of two halves”.  My own opinion suggests I am becoming a grumpy old man who regards questions on subjects I have no interest in as not sufficiently in the realm of general knowledge to be worthy of inclusion e.g. pop groups I have never heard of, or sports that excluded my relatives until 2001 (GAA) - even if we had been interested. 

Very good confounders in the theme rounds (it was not snooker balls in Round 1 despite coral being a shade of pink), and the African country theme eluded us until the last question (otherwise I might have reconsidered my wrong answer of the SS France holding the Blue Riband).

QotW was question 8 of that African country round - an answer as well disguised as Mike Bath does in his monthly Albert quizzes (the next on is this Monday by the way).


Jumbo's little cousin

(R7/Q6)


... and James's  ...

In a game where we scored 49, we obviously enjoyed the questions.  It was a later finish than some other recent quizzes, and there were a few long confers, but overall, a well-constructed quiz.  


... and this from Mike O'B ...

The quiz was mostly fair although the GAA questions  were perhaps too specialised.

IMHO London should have been allowed as an answer to the 'Cathedrals' question since both Southwark Cathedrals are in London and neither are in the City of London, or the City of Westminster.

The odd thing about the quiz was that it seemed to get progressively harder so that the scoring slowed down.  Ironically this favoured us as it allowed us to close a substantial gap to end with a tie.


Happisburgh's 900,000 year old strollers

(R7/Q2)


Question of the Week

This week Ivor and the Historymen liked the cleverly disguised answer in the final question in the 'African countries' themed round (Round 4 Question 8) ...

It has been recorded by artists as diverse as Julie London, Emerson, Lake & Palmer and Max Bygraves.  It has been referenced in the novels of Norman Mailer and Terry Pratchett.  It is sung in the films Jaws and A River Runs Through It.  What is the title of this song, written in 1925?

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


The gig that launched Madchester:

"I swear I was there!"

(R5/Q6)


... and also

Anne-Marie sends this request:

"I need a favour ...

My other half Richard is keen to revive his interest in playing chess.  He is a bit rusty and needs some practice (afraid I am the most rubbish chess player so not a good fit to practice with).  I am sure there are folk in the quiz league who can play and would like a social game in real life.  Online chess is a bit soulless IMHO.  If so, can they get in touch with me so I can arrange."

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Finally a bit of bragging...

Some of you have kindly guested on the radio show I host each Tuesday with local friend, Don Berry.  It's called Vintage FM and is a sort of poor man's Desert Island Discs.  Well the Community Radio Station we go out on is ALL FM based in Levenshulme - and last Saturday ALL FM won the 2024 National Community Station of the Year Award.  What's more this is the second time in 5 years ALL FM have won this gong - a feat no other station has achieved.  Whoopee!