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5th December 2024

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The Alex fly the Stockport flag into the Semis; elsewhere the WithQuiz triumvirate of Ethel, the Prods and KFD go through

Ethel Rodin beat S&C Fliers

Alexandra beat Opsimaths

Swan & Railway lost to Prodigals

KFD beat Smart Alex

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Ethel Rodin beat S&C Fliers

A comfortable win for Ethel earns a passage to the Semis

With no History Men match Ivor was able to QM this encounter

A very good performance from Ethel Rodin who won all three formats of the quiz tonight.  The S&C Fliers were very good company (the S&C is the Sun and Castle their local Stockport base).  This was their first appearance in the WIST Champions Cup and they only qualified because a higher-placed side could not raise a team for the contest.  They were very much a 'family team' with John and Helen married and son Danny joining the line up too.  Their fourth player was Mike, and, for good luck, their founding member Jim was in attendance too.  Jim is 84 so a mere youth compared with some of our Withington league members. 

Like Ethel Rodin the Fliers were experienced quizzers and not unduly troubled by the differing formats.  Indeed afterwards it was revealed that John had played in the 1968 University Challenge team for his college Balliol alongside the author Christopher Hitchens.  Those were the days of Bamber Gascoigne, who also wrote all the questions, and was fondly remembered as a convivial host.  And of course, being produced by Granada, there was excellent accommodation for the southern teams visiting Manchester for the recordings, and generous appearance money for the Junior Common Room coffers back at college.

The quiz progressed at a fast pace and the QM role was easy - though some of the questions were not!  In Bamber’s day a thorough knowledge of Greco-Roman culture was probably sufficient to get by.  Now an interest in Peppa Pig is needed (or rather having children or grandchildren with an interest in porcine affairs).  That was no problem for Ethel's James, and presumably the current Leader of the House is as up to date in the Peppa universe, as BoJo was before her.


Pink Floyd - my arse!

(R1/Q2)


Alexandra beat Opsimaths

The Alex march into the Semis as the only Stockport team left standing

Mike sums up from Opsi Seat 3

Oh dear!  Another drubbing.  This time at the hands of the cream of Stockport.  We couldn't have lost to a more friendly and welcoming squad and we wish them well in the next round - and perhaps the one after that?

In truth without the late lamented Nick, and with Howell elsewhere, we were ill-equipped to deal with the subject matter in this week's paper.  Of Rugby (League or Union) we collectively knew zilch and when it comes to spatial awareness of Shipping areas it is neither our forte nor in our soul.

Having said that there were a few 'shout-outs' to register.  The question about the presenter of The Tournament (a daytime TV quiz show) came across on offer and our Charlotte was able to say "I know that - I was on it and won £4,000!".  What's more Emma was the only one amongst all 8 competitors who knew that Emma Lazarus had penned the verse on the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty.  As for me I cottoned onto the Four Weddings and a Funeral theme early on to help my team mates (much to the amazement of Emma who thought I wouldn't even have heard of the film yet alone know about its content).  We were hot on beavers and otters as well  - but these few small triumphs could not disguise the fact that we were outplayed by a superior opposition.

We snaffled our sandwiches (de rigueur at the close of Stockport quiz matches) and shuffled off back across the Mersey with our tails between our legs.


... and winning Alex skipper Mike Wagstaffe adds ...

We always look forward to our (usually brief) forays into 'Europe' and it was nice to welcome a couple of new, and a couple of not-so-new faces to our Edgeley home.  Neither team was at full strength and this is reflected in the relatively low aggregate score, which was also tempered by our 'play it safe' strategy; so desperate were we to make sure that at least one Stockport team made it to the next round.

However any quiz that allows our Peppa Pig expert, Rob, to have his moment in the sun can't be all bad.


Paddington baddie

(R5/Q8)


Playing the Leads

(R1/Q10)


Swan & Railway lost to Prodigals

A close encounter ends with the Prods on top

Jimmy is full of praise for his night out in Stockport

Despite the best efforts of the elements all four Prodigals were finally able to assemble in the Swan with Two Necks on a very blustery Thursday evening.  

The quiz was a closely contested affair with very little between two evenly-matched teams.  Going into the last round the Prods held a slender two point lead but the outcome was still very much in the balance.  Ultimately our hard-earned superior knowledge of the demon drink gave us the slight edge over our hosts.  All in all it was an excellent quiz with a superbly balanced set of questions.  

Big shout out to the pub itself, a cracking boozer which even provided me with a plastic glass so John and I could escort 'Man of the Match' Anne-Marie to the bus station whilst continuing to enjoy a very convivial evening. More power to their elbow, absolutely excellent customer service.  

QotW was probably the author of the poem on the Statue of Liberty purely because it completely confounded Richard.  

And as a bonus at the end both teams thoroughly enjoyed the '10 most capped England players' Tennable-style spare question.


Full-hearted City midfielder

(R5/Q6)


KFD beat Smart Alex

KFD outsmart their opponents to cruise into the Semis

Kieran reminisces on past WIST encounters

"So much of Canada is crinkly"  

Thus spake our man in the Beaufort Sea at just about the same time as his alter ego was exiting the Basin Reserve before anyone had noticed he was there.  Not that we had needed the tie-breaker to resolve the evening but that line was too good to leave buried somewhere in the third or fourth paragraph.  

Smart Alex were without regular players Greg and Roddy who were in Ladybarn seeing off the S&C Fliers but they still put up a decent fight on a paper which didn't offer many easy points.  After the game was over they tucked into sandwiches, cakes and so forth which they had brought with them; clearly there are some Stockport League traditions which must be observed in all circumstances.  This post match feast may have been why Barry broke my recently set record for the cheapest victor's round. 


A Question of the Dominican Republic

(R4/Sp)


This was our fourteenth appearance in WIST and we've only fallen at the first hurdle twice.  The Tiviot, which was one of the scenes of our demise was demolished by the wrath of God shortly afterwards.  We've had some memorable evenings with our Stockport cousins - in the Pineapple battling Chunky and best of all in the wonderful Travellers Call on the A6.  The Travellers doesn't currently have a team in the Stockport League but I hope they come back soon, it's a great pub.  

Bob was in charge and handled everything with minimal fuss as ever, including having to read from the first manuscript question paper any of us had seen for twenty years or more.  He'll be back next week, probably, for our top of the table clash with the Prodigals.  I say probably because City are playing in Turin that night in football's version of WIST and since half the Griffin has been turned into a pool hall, Richard (points for picking up on that reference) and company may be in for a noisy night or even a relocation.


Jon who?

(R4/Q3)


Quiz paper set by...

... Stockport League

Average Aggregate score 80.8


The average aggregate for this type of WIST paper is generally around the late 90s (judging by results over the past few seasons) so this paper set for us by Barrie Atkinson from The Alexandra team was considerably harder than the average.  Out of an available 60 points on Round 1 the two teams in our match could only muster 29 points between them.  It did seem like the 30 Round 1 questions were 'straight down the middle' where you either knew the answer or you didn't - there were no sideways hints whereby you could deduce a sensible guess.


Shipping points

(R1/Q17-18)


When it came to the WithQuiz-style rounds we had 4 themed rounds with very accessible themes which offered alternative routes to the answers - so the scoring picked up a little.

Looking across the reports received above it's  clear that the paper led to a series of enjoyable encounters across South Manchester and Stockport.  Many thanks Barrie! 


Maybe Elvis hasn't left the building after all!

(R5/Q4)


... and from the other side of the Mersey Mike W's view  ...

Neither team seemed to find the paper particularly easy, but that's more down to our ability than a reflection on the questions.  We thought the Stockport-style first half was well-balanced and we would have undoubtedly scored more highly if our 'culture vulture' Ged hadn't been otherwise engaged, and we hadn’t talked ourselves out of a few correct answers.  The themes in the second half were well thought out and all the questions were perfectly answerable - although the FWAAF theme completely passed us by.


... and Prodigal Jimmy's verdict ...

All in all it was an excellent quiz with a superbly balanced set of questions.  


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"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

~~~~~~~~~~

Equally relevant to our times too?

(R2/Q9)


Question of the Week

This week Jimmy plumps for the one about the Statue of Liberty (Round 2 Question 9) which defeated even polymath Prodigal Richard ...

Who wrote the poem The New Colossus which is featured on a bronze plate on the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty?

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


Tournament host limbers up before meeting Opsi Charlotte

(R1/Q8)