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11th December 2024

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Prods keep their 100% with a last gasp win over second-placed KFD; Electric Pigs get a welcome and well-deserved first win at the Club

Opsimaths lost to Electric Pigs

Ethel Rodin lost to History Men

KFD lost to Prodigals

Bards beat Charabancs

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Opsimaths lost to Electric Pigs

At last a win for the Pigs - and a  handsome one to boot

Mike rues some blurts

I must start with warm words for the Pigs.  They have had a win in the offing for a while and  were clearly the better team in this match.

We were poor and, what made it worse, were the unfortunate blurts by some of us when we clearly knew better.  I won't mention Hilary's (oops!) but I certainly  made a pig's ear of my sporting 'BO' in Round 5.  Not only did I know it was 'Blackburn Olympic' I actually set virtually the same question in last month's Albert Club quiz.  So what did I blurt?  Bradford Olympic!.  QM Jeremy (thanks, mate) almost gave me the points so assured had my blurt been - then he paused and asked me to repeat.  Being an honest sort I repeated "Bradford" and lost the points.


The workers claim the beautiful game

(R5/Q1)


As I rush towards 80 I am finding that clarity of thought and power of memory (not to mention acuity of hearing) are galloping off in one direction, whilst the subject matter is haring off the opposite way, leaving me with plenty of knowledge about things I love (e.g. Scotland or The Lake District) but that rarely come up in the quiz.  Perhaps I should have spent more time learning stuff about subjects that didn't interest me (e.g. late 20th century rock bands or Greek myths) - but I'm afraid I never could stick that course; life's too short.  Sadly I think my days of competing need to meld into days where QMing and website editing are my sole contribution.  To be honest the biggest buzz I get these days comes from the occasional praise we get for our website being the best quiz website around.  I've put 25 years of hard labour into that one!

However enough of my failing powers.   On last night's plus side we have a new team member, Paul Donohue, who joined us tonight to spectate, and when Emma rang to say she was delayed, was drafted straight into the firing line for the first half.  Paul's from Chorlton and found us via the website.  Welcome to the squad, Paul!


The nut after the Bolt

(R1/Q3)


Ethel Rodin lost to History Men

A famous one point victory for the History Men in Ladybarn

Ivor has clearly been watching The Mirror and the Light

At the risk of being condemned as a Withington Grinch, but isn’t the modern Christmas terrible for quizzers?  Two weeks to go to the big day of over-indulgence and dietary indiscretion but team members are already heading off to works dinners in restaurants that have had a tree up since November.  Does anyone else wish for a return to the Tudor Christmas, with one day of Christ masses followed by light revelries - a Tudor version of Morecambe and Wise perhaps - or jolly japes where men tried to catch the king’s eye (to get ahead) and the women tried not to catch the king’s eye (to keep a head)?  Tonight we were missing Anne and David but our promotions from the bench, Rupert and Ray, proved to be labourers worthy of their salt as we secured an unlikely victory over last season’s champions.


Tennyson's hero

(R7/Q1)


Three of the matches tonight ended with single point victories and I am sure there will be stories from all three; triumphs and tragedies are the bed-fellows of the quizzer.  Our match played out in a fashion rather common for us - we had a lead of six points going into the last round and it got whittled away.  Ethel are not known for giving up, but Ray held his nerve for a two in his run-along question so I had the luxury of being able to fail yet again on a last question.

We enjoyed the quiz (though a winning team can always find some redeeming feature in even the direst paper).  Perhaps we were fortunate to have won the toss as Ethel (going second) got six of the nine unanswereds with Greg, unusually, sharing the MVP award (3 twos) whilst also being the Jonah (3 unanswereds). 


Mmm! Sage and onion sounds delicious

(R3/Q2)


James was none too pleased with the balance of the paper

After last week’s cup triumph (who knew that Dr Zhivago was written by Mr Parsnip?) a bump back to earth tonight. 

Both teams found it a bit of a grind.  No disrespect to the Historymen who consistently came up with great answers, but we did feel it was a bad toss to lose, and that they got the kinder questions.  Ultimately that was the difference on the night.  We don’t mind being runners up on a level pitch, but when the question balance seems off, it is frustrating and challenges the enjoyment factor.

That said, actual unanswereds did ultimately break 5-5, although Ethel had a  5-2 start in that respect with 3 of those going to Greg, traditionally our strongest player.  We were 6 behind from halftime right through until the end of Round 7.  We did miss a few sitters, either conferring and missing the two, or simply passing it over: Ermine Street, Sting, Tim Henman, and Jemima Puddleduck - and I should have gone for Tungsten. 

N.B. Due to repeated, unjustified overexposure the answer "River Phoenix" needs to be formally banned from WithQuiz in future, (along with "Kent Nagano" and "Uriah Heep".) 

Rob was playing instead of Roddy.  Roddy was downstairs in the bar (watching Man City fail against a team Aston Villa almost beat a week or two back).  He didn’t know any of the answers that would have made a difference - and in fact we would probably have scored fewer with him playing.


Teddy and Edith married in London

(R2/Q2)


Hollywood's Ogre Mogul

(R2/Q6)


KFD lost to Prodigals

A brilliant heavyweight tussle goes to the league leaders with a steal at the last

Jimmy tells how Richard stole the result

We've had some humdingers with KFD over the years but this was probably the best.  It was nip and tuck all the way, but come the last question of the night the teams were all square.  I'm not usually a fan on run-ons in the final round as most of the time they are fairly obvious 'gimmes'.  Fair play to the Albert setter though as this particular set were far from easy.

KFD didn't have the answer; Richard did - and that was that.  We'd stared a close defeat in the face for the latter rounds of the quiz mostly due to bad bingo choices and a misunderstanding on a confer.  Our hosts were exceptionally unlucky to come away empty-handed but the quizzing gods were with the Prods tonight (eventually).


Adventurer in the East

(R3/Q6)


A losing Kieran waxes lyrical

"I have some syllables which may be useful" - thus spake Pool Hall Richard, enigmatically and, appropriately enough, in the Griffin's totally pointless pool hall (a.k.a. the middle room without TV screens).  The syllables Richard was clutching gleefully were: 'mad', 'is' and 'on' - so he also had them in the correct order and thereby they scored a vital point for the Prodigals at the halfway stage of the final round putting them one point ahead with five questions to go.  We fought back, yet again, and the scores were level with just my question left.  I was in the same agonising position Ivor found himself in against us a few weeks back.  We needed a point for the win and we knew the opposition had the answer down cold, but for the first time in the evening the famed KFD brains trust came up with zilch and we handed over the question and the points with a resigned shrug.  

When we played Ethel I wrote that that game is our favourite of all the contests we have each season, and it is, not least because each team seems to win as often as the other.  The Prodigals, on the other hand, beat us 90% of the time, but Christ they are always great evenings.  The Prodigals are quite simply the best team we have faced over any extended period of a couple of seasons or longer.  St Cath's, Chunky, peak Opsimaths, Bards and even the recent iteration of Ethel have to take a back seat - there's no one in the same class.  We're almost happy that we only lost by one point right at the death. Almost.


Nothing beats Diversity

(R1/Q8)


We had annexed the pool hall for a more useful purpose and we had a Ganley in the room - Len's far more accomplished and significant distant relative, the incomparable Bob.  Well it was too good an opportunity to be passed up so check out the action photo from tonight's contest below.  In case you have any doubts here is chapter and, literally, verse:  

"Keep your arms as rigid as a juggernaut.  Clench your fists.  Point your knuckles straight ahead.  Do your best to look like a teddy bear.  Then try and pretend to look vertically dead.  Everybody’s doing the Len Bob Ganley Stance."  

Bob played the role perfectly.  Well you know what Andy Warhol said.....  

The Len Bob Ganley Stance

Our man taking guard at the Gabba got a Jasprit Bumrah fizzer first ball and completed a King Pair next round to become our man in the belly of a whale.  Some unkind soul mentioned Rory Burns.  We all shuddered - it's too soon.  More of him - Baz not Burns - next week, probably.   

Richard's physical manifestation of the anguish of having an answer just, just out of reach is one of the great WithQuiz turns.  It's even an upgrade on fellow Prodigal Mark Bassett's oft imitated, never bettered, head smacking "Doh!" as another two goes begging.  It took me back to the title decider we played against a Richard-toting Shrimp six years ago.  By some distance the best quiz game we've ever been privileged to play.  That one turned out somewhat better for us than tonight did.   


Sampling Prokofiev

(R4/Q2)


Post match there was plenty of chat about the Faces early albums, Rod Stewart's voice, getting thrown out of The Peveril of the Peak on the way to a Gary Glitter concert (shhh!), the best Christmas song (I Believe in Father Christmas by Greg Lake, apparently) and Oldham's endearing but quite mad celebration of the tubular bandage.  And then a random punter pushed a full pint glass up the corner where two pool hall walls joined, let go and it stayed there!  The perfect end to a great evening.  

Splendid quiz, terrific opponents and even better company, fantastic match, all presided over by 'Ballcrusher' Bob.   

And we lost.  

Damn, damn, damn. 


Sting sings Sting

(R4/Q4)


Bards beat Charabancs

The Bards sneak home by a single point and move up to 4th

John breathes a sigh of relief

A game of two halves at the Parrs Wood tonight as the Bards came back from a 9 point deficit at the half way mark to snatch victory on the last question!


Damian is advertising for virgins

We've obviously run out of willing virgins to sacrifice to the quiz gods, so, if there are any willing virgins out there and they would they like to apply, we would be very grateful.  I don't know what it is we did to offend those deities in the first place, but whatever it was they are having a whale of a time punishing us for it.

I've begun to lose count of the number of times we've been comfortably ahead for most of the quiz only to have it cruelly snatched away from us in the last couple of rounds.  Tonight was a classic case in point.  Ahead in every single round up to Round 6 and nine points ahead at the halfway mark and then, well you can guess the rest. For once, we thought that losing the toss and going second was working out well for us but then Rounds 6 and 7 came along to prove us sadly wrong yet again.  


Quiz paper set by...

... Albert

Average Aggregate score 70.5


A bit below the season's average of 76.3 but not too far adrift.  At the Club we felt the first half was much tougher than the second half and had Rounds 1 to 4 had a little softening then the overall scores would have been bang on the money.

Good variety in the questions and types of Round with themes a-plenty to ponder. 


Tim plays second fiddle

(R1/Q1)


... and Jimmy's verdict ...

Tough, but enjoyable quiz with some imaginative ideas for rounds.  Our only gripe was with some of the random questions on the 'acrostic' round - particularly the opener (which fell to me obviously).  But overall it was a well balanced affair which really tested both teams’ mettle.


... and Damian's ...

Tonight's paper from the Albert seemed to suit us very well at first and the themes weren't too hard to work out though they didn't always help us get to the answer. 

However we were not fans of the pairing in Round 6 as that was the round that started our downfall.  I counted 8 unanswered questions which split evenly at 4 all between us. We resumed our lead in the final round of Run-ons but it wasn't enough to hold back the Bards' resurgence and they scraped past us by one point at the end.  Neither team scored any twos in that final round but we were the ones that needed them the most, and they just wouldn't come.  The quiz gods must have been sniggering with glee just like Muttley 

The final score seemed to be a tad below the season's average suggesting a moderately hard quiz.  Naturally we voted the Bingo round as our favourite - sorry Tony! 


Bay Watchers

(R6/Q4)


... meanwhile Ivor comments ...

Plenty of interesting questions and themes.  Some rather hard questions too, but the pleasure of getting a hard question right provides the high for a quizzer, that a sugar rush provides a child, or a cocaine hit provides a user/ misuser/ abuser - or so I read.  We quickly spotted the water round theme and the Christmas songs and lyrics did not faze Vanessa (primary school children have been excited about Christmas for a month now).  The 'Runner’s-Up' Round certainly demonstrated how quickly losers can be forgotten; likely to be the Historymen’s fate of course.  The former 18th century prime ministers theme was cracked too.  Those were the days when anyone with a title lower than an earl or an estate smaller than Northamptonshire was probably not the right sort to hold office.  People who were better dressed and had more properties than their colleagues; so unlike the present day! 

Wrong Answer of the Week ...

We are after all pleased that the Aussies have not named their premier journalist award "the Murdoch”.


Goodnight Vienna!

(R1/Q6)


... and James is none too gruntled ...

No doubt I'll be considered to have been quite harsh on the setters in this review; it’s tough setting quizzes.  The overwhelming majority of the questions were completely fine, and, in fairness, covered a good range of topics.  But it only takes 3 or 4 dubious questions - or even just a couple - to swing the dynamic, especially when the teams are very closely matched. 

The main struggles we had tonight are exemplified by Round 2 which, taking the 8 questions in order, we considered;

Medium, Hard, 

Easy, Hard, 

Easy, Medium,

Medium, Hard. 

We went second and the Historymen won that round very easily, by many more points than was the difference between the final scores. 

Perhaps the worst of the pairs in this round was "Which group of artists united to form a film company?" paired with a question that was a list of random irrelevant facts about some bloke, none of which gave any kind of clue to the answer. The whole of this question could have been shortened to "Guess an old film company".  Similarly the acronym UAV was very easily worked out, as it was obviously a drone, whereas ATACMS was not only much harder, but it wasn’t even a proper acronym.  

Then later in the quiz, the Historymen were asked a bog-standard capital city question, followed by our question about gazillions.  Even if the acrostic had been deciphered by that point, it wouldn’t have helped, as Michael had already whittled the answer down to Quintillion or Quadrillion and then went with the wrong one.  In that same round, I doubt many across the league scored points for the Walkley Awards - a very tough (and unanswered) question in any context; but as the first question of a themed round, something of an extra challenge. 


"There's a moose loose aboot this hoose"

British songwriting at its best

(R7/Q7)


Meanwhile, in the same round, the last question to the Historymen was essentially "What thing beginning with 'Z' etc., etc.?"  Really!  I doubt most of us could list more than half a dozen nouns beginning with 'Z' and at least two of those would be zebrafish and zebra crossing.  What else was it going to be? Zucchini?  Types of zip? 

Round 7 on Baroque PMs was a good round, but even then, Question 1 to Greg was a stinker. The privateer Grenville was unknown to all 9 in the room (and Roddy as well).  It was perhaps just about tenable as a later question once the theme had been established, but again, as the first question in a themed round completely impossible.  Nul points.  

Round 8 offered some hope but just a little too late.  We needed 6 to tie, but it ended 8-3, so we finished one point behind.  


Ding-a-ling problems maybe

(R4/Sp1)


Question of the Week

This week with three of our four matches being clinched by one point on the final question of the evening it has to be Round 8 (a Run-ons round) Question 8 ...

English title of a 1997 French memoir describing the author’s life before and after a massive stroke which left him able to communicate only by blinking

&

Popular name for a principle of chaos theory, that trivial events may have vastly more significant consequences?

For the answer to this and all the week's other questions click here.


You've been Warnered!

(R8/Q2)